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The Queen’s speech

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Whitewavemark2 Mon 20-Dec-21 06:56:07

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wicklowwinnie Sun 26-Dec-21 15:52:22

If Kate cannot be Queen when William becomes King,
how is it we had King George the sixth and his wife was known as Queen Elizabeth?

Anniebach Sun 26-Dec-21 15:56:52

Because she was a Queen consort not a Queen

The media refer to Diana as Princess Diana, she wasn’t a princess, if William wasn’t given title Duke of Cambridge when
they married Kate would be princess William

Mr & Mrs

lemsip Sun 26-Dec-21 16:04:22

oh dear, the same 2 0r 3 bad tempered people on here aswell and the D pf C playing the piano thread.....

Grany Sun 26-Dec-21 16:06:52

King queen princess prince why do we put up with this nonsense hmm

Anniebach Sun 26-Dec-21 16:10:26

sexism FarNorth

Mollygo Sun 26-Dec-21 16:12:21

Yes Lemsip. Sadly.

Anniebach Sun 26-Dec-21 16:13:54

Why not granymp’s are called the honourable!

nadateturbe Sun 26-Dec-21 16:17:16

Thank you Anniebach. The remark about being subject wasn't directed at you.

Yes we don't know what life is like for others. But we do know when we are fortunate compared to others. I certainly would feel very guilty if I had £1m in the bank and people were homeless or in any kind of need. I think you would too.

Anniebach Sun 26-Dec-21 16:20:53

Yes I would nadateturbe I would feel very guilty having a holiday home too.

nadateturbe Sun 26-Dec-21 16:22:40

I can't identify 3 bad tempered posters.

Jaberwok Sun 26-Dec-21 16:44:46

The husband of the Queen is never titled King. There has been one exception though in 1688-89 when William and Mary became King and Queen after the expelling of James 11nd./V11th. Mary was Queen in her own right, but William of Orange was not prepared to be out ranked by her in Britain when he out ranked her in the Netherlands. The wife of a King however has the title of Queen, hence Queen Charlotte, (George 111rd) Queen Adelaide (William 1Vth) Queen Alexandra (Edward V11th) Queen Mary, ( George Vth) and Queen Elizabeth (GeorgeV1th). Camilla may or may not take the title of Queen, Catherine almost certainly will. Prince Albert was very anxious to be King alongside Victoria, a la Dutch William,but Victoria would only grant him Prince Consort, a title Prince Phillip refused.

Alegrias1 Sun 26-Dec-21 16:52:06

A prince can mak a belted knight,
A marquis, duke, an' a' that;
But an honest man's aboon his might,
Guid faith he mauna fa' that!
For a' that, an' a' that,
Their dignities, an' a' that,
The pith o' sense, an' pride o' worth,
Are higher rank than a' that.

lemongrove Sun 26-Dec-21 17:01:59

I just knew there would be some Scottish home spun ‘wisdom’ dispensed at some stage on here.?It was just a case of which Scottish poster out of two would do the dispensing.

The Queen’s Christmas message hit the right note I thought, and she looks really good for her age, and seems sharp mentally.

lemongrove Sun 26-Dec-21 17:03:39

Jaberwok and Annie...you are both very knowledgable on this subject.smile

25Avalon Sun 26-Dec-21 17:09:42

The Queen’s speech topped the TV ratings for Christmas Day. Strictly came next.

Alegrias1 Sun 26-Dec-21 17:13:36

lemongrove

I just knew there would be some Scottish home spun ‘wisdom’ dispensed at some stage on here.?It was just a case of which Scottish poster out of two would do the dispensing.

The Queen’s Christmas message hit the right note I thought, and she looks really good for her age, and seems sharp mentally.

Aye, you should write to the National Library of Scotland with your excellent assessment of Burns Lemongrove. That's what they've been missing all these years.

Anyway, there's plenty outdoing you for anti-Scottish sentiment on here today. You're late to the party.

Calistemon Sun 26-Dec-21 17:23:20

paddyann54 Sat 25-Dec-21 18:04:51

Everyone knows you are a separatist Republican and I realise now that mostly posters ignore your posts but it's hypocritical of you to then criticise others who may post an adverse opinion about eg Harry and Meghan or Sturgeon.

It leaves you no room for manoeuvre whatsoever.
People in glass houses etc.

lemongrove Sun 26-Dec-21 17:24:48

It isn’t obligatory ( even for Scots) to relish the writings of Burns Alegrias ?

Calistemon Sun 26-Dec-21 17:27:22

MaizieD

I thought it was a nice address. I liked that there was a nod to others who have been bereaved this last year.

I did notice the slight clothing 'fails' that people have commented on but really don't think they were worth even mentioning. Looking a little for symbolism in her clothes and jewels and thought the blue brooch looked a bit odd, then realised, red dress, white pearls and blue brooch. I understand that she is always careful in her choice of jewellery for public appearances.

I agree MaizieD
It was thoughtful and indeed, it was courageous of her to talk about her bereavement so publicly and so soon after.

Lots of elderly people lose weight and body mass, often quite rapidly.

Jaberwok Sun 26-Dec-21 17:28:15

History was my favorite subject at school closely followed by English Literature and I've read both extensively over the years. We did 1688, The glorious revolution, - 1820, Death of George 111rd for O'level, fascinating period and a relative breeze. The Corn Laws for A.level were far less so!! This was made up for though by the books we did for literature A'level. Middlemarch and Guy Mannering were two favorites.

Elegran Sun 26-Dec-21 17:29:48

If the other Scottish poster is me, Lemongrove, I don't think I qualify, as I am English born and bred. However, I have spent 65 years of my life here, so I have learnt a little about how Scots react to anyone "lording it over them", either by birth or by assumed superiority. In fact, it is much the same as my own English parents and grandparents would react.

lemongrove Sun 26-Dec-21 17:30:26

I love Middlemarch Jaberwok

lemongrove Sun 26-Dec-21 17:31:15

No * Elegran* it isn’t you.

lemongrove Sun 26-Dec-21 17:33:32

I don’t think anyone anywhere likes somebody ‘lording it’ over them come to that.
I am a Republican but think the Queen has done an amazingly good job.

Alegrias1 Sun 26-Dec-21 17:34:23

Phew. You can sleep sound tonight Elegran wink