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The Queen’s speech

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Whitewavemark2 Mon 20-Dec-21 06:56:07

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Elegran Sun 26-Dec-21 17:36:09

That's such a relief, Alegrias!

Calistemon Sun 26-Dec-21 17:36:43

Alegrias1

I'm nobody's subject.

Not now, not ever.

None of us are, are we!

Why do some people keep assuming that? Harking back to the past.

It says 'Citizen' on my passport.

nadateturbe Sun 26-Dec-21 17:41:06

Anniebach

Yes I would nadateturbe I would feel very guilty having a holiday home too.

Ah I'm with you now Anniebach. lol. Oh I don't feel guilty at all. I would if I had free use of more than one luxury holiday home for life with servants and all amenities thrown in. As it is, I worked bloody hard with unpaid overtime in a stressful low paid government job whilst paying tax to fund you know who. Whilst coping with M.E. and doing all my own housework. Do I feel guilty? No.

But if you would feel guilty owning a holiday home whilst there are people in need would you not think the same should apply to the RF?

lemongrove Sun 26-Dec-21 17:41:11

A few Scottish members have very thin skins and yet dish out their dislike of England at every opportunity, it’s beyond tedious.

Mollygo Sun 26-Dec-21 17:41:20

Who’s lording it over them? By whose perception? How are they doing it?
As usual on GN, please supply evidence.

Jaberwok Sun 26-Dec-21 17:42:39

Guy Mannering is of course by Walter Scott, We also read W.H Davis, who was Welsh,so perhaps I should have said British Literature. Yes lemon Middlemarch is a fantastic read.

lemongrove Sun 26-Dec-21 17:44:44

nataturbe What do you suppose the RF should do? How do any of us know what charities they donate to?
Yes, they enjoy a wealthy lifestyle but look what comes with it!
Which is why Harry escaped off to the US, he just wanted the
wealthy lifestyle not all the responsibilities.

Jaberwok Sun 26-Dec-21 17:52:27

You've got it in one Lemon!

Grany Sun 26-Dec-21 18:37:16

lemongrove

nataturbe What do you suppose the RF should do? How do any of us know what charities they donate to?
Yes, they enjoy a wealthy lifestyle but look what comes with it!
Which is why Harry escaped off to the US, he just wanted the
wealthy lifestyle not all the responsibilities.

Giving Evidence in its independent report found charities do not benefit from royal patronage as RF do not visit over 70% of charities only those that they are interested in and near to where they live.

They have a wealthy lifestyle spending public money daily on their own private interests, nothing is ever said.

Don't know why we still have a RF

Alegrias1 Sun 26-Dec-21 18:50:41

lemongrove

A few Scottish members have very thin skins and yet dish out their dislike of England at every opportunity, it’s beyond tedious.

There is a subgroup of English people, quite a small group, who are consumed by perceptions of the superiority of their own nation. So when another nation just doesn't want to be part of the English club, they can only conceive that it must be because they are disliked. When in fact, it's just indifference. Complete, unadulterated indifference. ?

Anniebach Sun 26-Dec-21 18:59:50

If their interests are private how can anyone say they pour money into them ?

Grany Sun 26-Dec-21 19:10:33

Anniebach

If their interests are private how can anyone say they pour money into them ?

It means RF spending public money daily on their own interests.

Should get a set amount based on what is actually needed

Mollygo Sun 26-Dec-21 19:15:00

Lovely to hear from you again Grany. Keep it up!

lemongrove Sun 26-Dec-21 19:22:19

Grany but they still do donate and are patrons of certain charities, just their patronage alone is worth a lot to any charity surely.
I’m a Republican too, but can see what a good job the present Queen has done for very many years.
There won’t be enough years ahead for Charles probably, but I think that William will do a really good job for the UK in the future.
I think in any referendum to keep/ abolish the monarchy there will never be enough votes to abolish them, not in the next 50 years anyway.

Alegrias1 Sun 26-Dec-21 19:36:26

Grany but they still do donate and are patrons of certain charities, just their patronage alone is worth a lot to any charity surely.

giving-evidence.com/2020/07/16/royal-findings/

Nope...

nadateturbe Sun 26-Dec-21 19:41:14

No matter what they donate to whom, we the taxpayers, still fund their lifestyle, while they amass more money.But monarchists will always attempt to justify this.

lemongrove Sun 26-Dec-21 19:52:54

Looking at the sheer number of charities with royal patronage,
( not far off 3,000!) it seems that they should perhaps have less ....then they could do more visits and achieve more.
Then they would no doubt be accused of not supporting enough charities, so they can’t win really.
Thought it was funny that the website for Harry’s charitable patronage directed people to a porn site.?

lemongrove Sun 26-Dec-21 19:54:53

I’m not a monarchist nataturbe but I recognise the fact that we are a monarchy here, whether I like it or not.