Horse Puncher sacked from teaching job

*hire should be *horse

Your post trisher (11.12) is not worth any comment whatsoever.

FarNorth

That's true trisher I haven't.
Are you saying that the kicks and punches in that clip were likely to have a useful effect?

I wasn't there. I have found on the internet (and it's damned difficult to do because most versions are cut ) footage showingthe horse running away from the girl who was trying to load it. They were in the road. There were children standing very close. She was holding another horse when she grabbed the reins of the loose one. Is the horse dangerous? I don't know. Would it have kicked one of the children standing close to it? I don't know. Was she making sure it didn't? I don't know. And neither do the rest of you. So this trial by media thing is just as equivalent to letting off a bomb. It has effectively ruined her life and she's gone into hiding. Feel proud of yourselves.

It was awful to witness. Cruel. That poor horse was rearing it’s head back, so frightened.

Repeatedly hitting a horse across the face, kicking and terrifying the animal would not ‘teach’ it anything, other than to fear humans.
Anyone who can lose control in that way, or worse, believe that cruelty is a way of training an animal isn’t an appropriate person to work as a teacher.
Lots of research folks thst links cruelty to animals to other forms of abusive behaviour
Goes without saying that losing her job and being publicly shamed is punishment enough. Death threats say more about the people making them, they should be tracked down and prosevuted

I suppose if the horse had kicked a child or run further away everyone would be saying that she should have controlled it. Even if it was it is no justification for someone losing her job.

trisher

FarNorth

That's true trisher I haven't.
Are you saying that the kicks and punches in that clip were likely to have a useful effect?

I wasn't there. I have found on the internet (and it's damned difficult to do because most versions are cut ) footage showingthe horse running away from the girl who was trying to load it. They were in the road. There were children standing very close. She was holding another horse when she grabbed the reins of the loose one. Is the horse dangerous? I don't know. Would it have kicked one of the children standing close to it? I don't know. Was she making sure it didn't? I don't know. And neither do the rest of you. So this trial by media thing is just as equivalent to letting off a bomb. It has effectively ruined her life and she's gone into hiding. Feel proud of yourselves.

I have nothing to be ashamed of trisher my opinion is my opinion.

Having been around horses in many situations, even having to unload two in the middle of a duel carriage way due to a problem in the horse box, I have never felt the need to punch an animal. Nor have I ever seen anyone else punch an animal. In fact that behaviour in many equestrian situations would get her banned.

trisher, you haven't seen all the footage. This was a quiet country lane filled with horses and humans. There was a child leading the horse. This woman decided to give it a slap and kick because it clearly wasn't behaving as she deemed fit.

You are defending the indefensible here.

Apart from anything else can you imagine the chat between parent and child? "Who is your teacher for next year?*, Oh the one who kicks horses

Her position is untenable.

She should have taken more care. As a horse and donkey owner I have never felt the need to slap or kick one of them in my life. In fact if anyone was so foolish as to do such a thing it's more likely that the horse would either kick out or bolt.

She had to lose her job. She has proved she's just not up to doing anything remotely to do with teaching young children

trisher

I suppose if the horse had kicked a child or run further away everyone would be saying that she should have controlled it. Even if it was it is no justification for someone losing her job.

The children that were present this equestrian event in all probability had been around horses mot of their lives. They would have known to either keep out of the way or assist.

I know it’s hard for some to acknowledge but teachers are not all perfect, some are as flawed as the next person, and need to be treated the same.

Apologies for typos but this is a subject I feel so strongly about

Incidently I think hunting is awful. I think the people who do it are despicable. I'd support any investigation that fully looked at all the facts. What I won't do is support an on-line witch hunt that condemns and judges or the dismissal of someone because they were publicly condemned by social media (and the fact that they probably cost a lot).

I remember taking on a 16.2 stallion many years ago. Dead behind the eyes through being hit. He did well with me in his old age. I often think about him.

GG13 if she is such a liability why do you imagine she has acheived promotion and a leadership role? If she is so bad the trust she worked for should be the subject of an ofsted inspection because they are promoting unsuitable people

I hadn't even realised children were taken on hunts

Even if the horse ran away it shouldn’t be punched or kicked and she’s holding the rein tightly so it can’t move its head away. I can’t believe anyone is defending this. The huntspeople who stood around and watched and didn’t intervene are just as bad. If she did this in front of people what would she be doing in private. Disgusting behaviour.

She was dismissed for bringing the trust into disrepute which is a sacking offence.

She was a primary teacher.
Restraint, patience and kindness are the most important qualities I can think of off the top of my head.
Would you want her teaching your child with ADHD or whatever trisher?
Never mind an NQT who you speak so disparagingly about; I’d prefer the Caretaker to teach my child than a woman such as her

vegansrock

She was dismissed for bringing the trust into disrepute which is a sacking offence.

And of course she is expensive. Highly qualified, experienced teachers are. NQTs are cheaper.

FannyCornforth

She was a primary teacher.
Restraint, patience and kindness are the most important qualities I can think of off the top of my head.
Would you want her teaching your child with ADHD or whatever trisher?
Never mind an NQT who you speak so disparagingly about; I’d prefer the Caretaker to teach my child than a woman such as her

As I said if the trust promoted her then you are effectively saying they are promoting inadequacy. They need investigating then.

This was nothing to do with controlling the horse, it was sheer temper. 70 years ago a gamekeeper taught me that hitting animals was wrong and counterproductive (using Lord Halifax and his whip as an example) She seems to have missed out on those lessons.

Btw one of the nastiest people I have ever known was a Primary Head. When she took over my old school, 70% of the staff left within a year. That is the God’s honest truth

And it was a Trust

Oh good.
I do like a happy ending to a story at Christmas time.

Working in a school doesnt mean people can't be arseholes, by the way. (And she is a prize one!)

So Trish its ok to lose your temper and lash out, I don't think so, there are other ways of calming the horse rather than hitting and kicking it. Would you say this was ok to do to a child who was doing the same thing? Your comment is disgusting.

trisher

vegansrock

She was dismissed for bringing the trust into disrepute which is a sacking offence.

And of course she is expensive. Highly qualified, experienced teachers are. NQTs are cheaper.

Why do you keep bringing money into it? Oh she's a good experienced teacher so we'll just ignore this footage of her hitting an animal who won't have the foggiest idea why it's being hit?

What's so sad is that horse was clearly bomb proof and she knew full well it wouldn't retaliate.

Here is more footage you might not have seen Trisher. That lane was not a major roadway. People and horses were milling around. The horse was no danger to anyone.

He trots over to her. He wasn't heading off anywhere. He was under control.

She wasn't.

This is not trial by media, (which I deplore by the way) this is footage of cruelty to animals

She only has herself to blame

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/09/woman-who-appeared-to-slap-and-kick-horse-ousted-from-pony-club-role