Horse Puncher sacked from teaching job

It’s horrible isn’t it MayBee

A boxing match between two consenting adults is absolutely nothing like a human slapping and kicking a defenceless animal - the comparison is in my opinion, ridiculous. An adult setting about a defenceless child is more of a true comparison.

It is utterly, totally ludicrous to equate the two.
Trisher you do seem to be quite the contrarian

Oh, I'm a taurean.

MissAdventure

Oh, I'm a taurean.

I guessed as much, so is my DD

Really?
That's interesting.
We should try a guess the star sign thread, but I'm thinking it may not end well.

Why are you minimising the abuse this horse was subjected to Trisha? You oppose hunting, so do the majority. I strongly oppose cruelty to animals. I saw you dismissed the comparison I made between people who abuse animals and the other types of abuse those individuals often perpetrate.

I know nothing if this woman’s work in education. I’m absolutely clear it was right, that after due process, she lost her job. There will be an appeals tribunal available to her. Good luck with that one.

It's funny isn't it that people cannot understand when someone moves the discussion away from the prejudices and preconceptions posted, away from all the media hype and hysteria. I don't know what went on with the horse I wasn't there. I refuse to judge by a brief video posted on the internet for whatever reason. If the allegation was cruelty the hunt saboteurs could have sent it to the RSPCA and had a proper investigation. They chose instead to have judgement by social media which most of you seem happy to endorse. I don't choose to do so.
And if you don't understand that my references to boxing are purely to show that neither my personal dislikes, nor yours, should influence or have any sway in any accusations or judgements of anyone, then it isn't my problem. You can describe the actions as cruelty if you wish, what you have absolutely no right to do is to condemn draw any conclusions about what happened, or to project your emotions and prejudices onto the situation, and condemn the woman who has no voice or way of replying.

I understand she lost her job because she was found to have brought the trust into disrepute. It seems then that judgement by social media is an accepted tool for dismissal. I don't regard this as any sort of justice.

Even the hunt have condemned her.
No surprise that they don't want anyone with that mentality linked with them.

The rspca is investigating the incident.

The trust conducted a six week investigation into the incident.
Bringing the organisation into disrepute has long been grounds for sacking
I’m not projecting my emotions or prejudices on to this situation. I did watch the video so may be better placed to comment. I also spent many happy hours around and riding horses till health got in the way ten years ago. Hitting them round the face and kicking them is abuse. Behaviour like that wouldn’t be tolerated in tour average riding school

Evil cow deserves all she gets.

The Trust conducted a 6 week investigation - the investigation must have included interviewing the woman; therefore she would have had ample opportunity to have a voice and way of replying.

It also appealed for anyone who had witnessed it to come forward.
I wonder if people were reticent?

* It seems then that judgement by social media is an accepted tool for dismissal. *

No trisher. The woman was dismissed due to her actions in abusing a horse. You didn't have to be there to see what happened.

If social media is so influential Boris Johnson would not be PM and we'd still be in the EU.

You're flogging a dead horse

Zoejory ??

Zoejory

* It seems then that judgement by social media is an accepted tool for dismissal. *

No trisher. The woman was dismissed due to her actions in abusing a horse. You didn't have to be there to see what happened.

If social media is so influential Boris Johnson would not be PM and we'd still be in the EU.

You're flogging a dead horse

Which goes to show the illogicality of some posters. BJ is PM because he won an election. He will remain PM until either his party removes him or another election unseats him. Thinking social media has any influence on this shows a distinct lack of understanding of democratic process.

Iam64 if what you say is true then the presentation of this video to the RSPCA would have resulted in this woman being banned from working with horses. Why did the hunt saboteurs choose instead to post the video on-line? Forgive me but I always doubt video evidence unless there is actual proof that it hasn't been tampered with or corroborating witnesses. I know how easy it is to edit stuff.

Good grief!

Why did the hunt saboteurs choose instead to post the video on-line? Forgive me but I always doubt video evidence unless there is actual proof that it hasn't been tampered with or corroborating witnesses. I know how easy it is to edit stuff.

So ironic to see you making and anti-hunt saboteurs case, trisher. Or are you implying that they were out to 'get' Ms Mould and fabricated the evidence?

It may be easy to edit stuff, but a number of very knowledgeable horsey people on this thread have viewed the video and would be able to tell very easily if the sequence had been edited. It hasn't been edited. It is a totally familiar and common scene that we will have seen hundreds of times in many different settings. (People loading their horses, that is, not the abuse, which is very uncommon)

B*gger... an anti-hunt saboteurs case....

Trisher you really are demeaning yourself on this thread. You’ve lost any credibility you may have had.

How could she be stopped from anything when the RSPCA is still reviewing the details? ?
Why shouldn't the hunt saboteurs post unsavoury videos about hunt members?
That is the whole point of them protesting in the first place.

tickingbird

Trisher you really are demeaning yourself on this thread. You’ve lost any credibility you may have had.

Personal abuse is against the GN rules tickingbird feel free to report yourself. I'm quite happy with my integrity thank you. I refuse to be cowed or threatened into any other stance.
Would I like this woman? Probably not.
Do I like hunting? Certainly not.
Do I object to anyone being pilloried on social media and dismissed without anyone knowing the full story? Yes I do.

If you read this thread through you will find posts saying the horse wasn't running loose, because the hunt saboteurs realised cutting the footage would best serve their aims. The majority of people will have viewed the cut version.

I don't know exactly what went on and if the RSPCA had viewed the footage and judged the woman guilty of cruelty I would have supported them. As it is I refuse to be as judgemental as others and that is absolutely consistent with my beliefs that mob rule is never acceptable.

The funniest thing is that the Hunt has dismissed her! because you can torture and kill foxes, but for goodness sake don't hit a horse.

She must be totally devastated by that, I'd imagine.
It's a very suitable hobby for her.

trisher don't you think the fact the Hunt has dismissed her shows that they have seen the full evidence and were convinced that she did ill-treat the horse?
And therefore it's a bit silly to keep insisting she didn't?