Harry and Meghan's Happy Holiday Card

I think it's a nice photo, they look happy.

I’ve just whizzed through most of these comments. It is obvious there are a number of people who will pick on H&M whatever they do, and that is sad. Whatever they wear, the photos they take of their children, you name it. They are in an unbelievably difficult position and commentators having a moan about, say, their children’s faces not being in full view, is ridiculous. By the way, has no one noticed there has been no info at all about Zara Tindall’s and Princess Eugenie’s sons’ baptism? After Archie’s baptism with no info for the media, all hell was let loose.

One thing confuses me…complaints about not seeing the children faces….I can see quite a lot of their faces? Certainly enough to have an idea of what they look like.
But you have it right ladyleftfield….

Zara and Eugenie’s babies had a shared christening. As I recall, we don’t see anything much about the more minor royals christenings, only William’s and Harry’s, except of course H&M made a thing about not disclosing the godparents etc for Archie. Has Lilibet even been christened? Who knows.

Who cares?

They have put themselves in that ‘unbelievably difficult position’ Ladyleftfieldlover.

By the way, has no one noticed there has been no info at all about Zara Tindall’s and Princess Eugenie’s sons’ baptism? After Archie’s baptism with no info for the media, all hell was let loose.
I don't think they kept it secret particularly.
We didn't see a lot of their weddings either, presumably because they weren't big State affairs.

Wasn't it Charlotte who told the press to clear off at Louis' Christening?

She said ‘your not coming ‘ as they walked into the Church , not shy is she

Well done that girl!
Takes after her Great-Aunt Anne?

Anniebach

She said ‘your not coming ‘ as they walked into the Church , not shy is she

That had me smiling at the time Anniebach - a touch of the Princess Anne methinks!

I’ve got a theory about Charlotte- I really think that she will be Queen.
The photos in the Mail on Sunda made me think about it again yesterday; she was pictured all smiles and the star of the show, and George looked a bag of nerves.

Charlotte is a Middleton woman through and through

‘Your not coming’ a polite way of saying naff off ?

Galaxy

I remember as a teenage one of my closest friends had a fairly dramatic look, spiky hair etc, my uncle came to stay and whinged endlessly about how she was dressed. My parents told him very firmly not to behave like that in their home. I have never forgotten their kindness of spirit.

Agreed, no matter what you think of their fashions you can't criticise them face to face unless it's your own child, and even then you have to show tolerance and remember it's only a passing phase. I think your parents did exactly the right thing in supporting your friend, not matter what they looked like!

I thought it was a lovely picture.

Mostly any bad press or dislike by the public has been brought upon themselves by their constantly trying to be royals in America. They set up photo ops and invite the press or their own private photographers eg a visit to a forces cemetery on the British Rememberance Day, complete with their own photographer, or a visit to a school in LA to plant forget me nots in memory of Diana? Whatever, they took their own photographer and it was reported they stayed twenty minutes. I could go on with many other such self promotion tactics they’ve employed, but it’d bore everyone to death. Suffice it to say, there have been many. That’s why they are disliked, along with their blatant self promotion as world experts on climate change, and lecturing the world’s population on not flying, whilst they repeatedly take private flights to anywhere in the world, seemingly without batting an eye. Boris is constantly moaned about because of one rule for us, another for them. No one can possibly have not noticed that H+M do exactly the same thing. Do as I say, not as I do seems to be their motto. If anyone chooses not to understand or see this, they must be wearing blinkers!

I havent not noticed I just think that's something that most of the royal family do.

Anniebach

She said ‘your not coming ‘ as they walked into the Church , not shy is she

That sounds quite rude - I’d be shocked if my GD said that.

Galaxy

I havent not noticed I just think that's something that most of the royal family do.

The point is that they said they don’t want to be royal. They said they wanted to withdraw from royal life/duties and live a private life, and become financially independent. Obviously they need to do some ‘work’ so Netflix etc but they are using their royal connections in order to remain relevant (not sure how relevant they actually are, but that would be a different question.)

Plus, rather a lot of people say they don’t understand why they’re disliked. I find it quite difficult to understand why those people don’t understand, but I am merely trying to explain why people don’t like them. To be honest, it’s not rocket science. It’s their behaviour that many people don’t like. Simple!

Galaxy

I havent not noticed I just think that's something that most of the royal family do.

But they're not royals any more.

I agree with your explanations, maddyone.

Lizzie72

Anniebach

She said ‘your not coming ‘ as they walked into the Church , not shy is she

That sounds quite rude - I’d be shocked if my GD said that.

I think children don't always know when they are being rude and it's up to the adults to make them realise if they are. Social etiquette is something they learn as they grow.

But I dont really care if they are royal or not. So when William and Kate lecture on climate change it's the same to me as Harry and Meghan. Or Emma Thompson for that matter who I really like as an actress but who's advice on flying made me cross

Some people don't seem to understand why H&M get criticized while W&C are the golden couple who can do no wrong. But it is purely down to behaviour. H&M have done so many inappropriate things and the final straw was the Oprah interview, which was so unkind to Harry's family and especially the Queen. That interview was completely unnecessary, if they want to make a new life then just get on with it. Don't drag up past grievances which will hurt people.

Maddyone sums them up very well and the reasons why many dislike them.