Will the Nation accept an apology? Will you?

lemongrove

Let’s not resort to ‘stoning’ memes !

Let's not resort to telling other posters what they can or cannot post!

He tries to take the credit for the vaccine which was produced and given by innumerable scientists and health workers, it is they who should be thanked not the PM

Chestnut, you are unbelieveable.

lemongrove

It was definitely the wrong thing to do ( the garden party) no doubting that to most people, however I must say to those posters who think it was Johnson’s pals there, they were number ten employees.
As to should he resign? A difficult one, yes ( from the point of view of one who would like to see a different Conservative PM in place) and no because we are still unsure how Covid is affecting the country ( both the economy and health) although it’s looking brighter. Spring would be a better time all round for a leadership election.The best thing he could do is to decide to resign then rather than be pushed.

I agree again lemongrove! You always post a sensible suggestion. We need another Conservative PM and not one of that Labour rabble. I have nightmares about Starmer, Corbyn, Abbott, Phillips, Long-Bailey etc. running the country. And don't forget Blair is hovering in the wings and may try to make a comeback.

I'm sure people don't need an explanation about how the virus works.
An explanation about how some are exempt from their own rules because they fancy a 'do' might be more helpful.

Chestnut

Mrsdof

NO! NEVER! My Mum died in hospital at 101yrs old from COVID in Oct. 2020 and the nurse called me to say she only had a very short time left and would I like to speak to her because she was crying for me. I did but it was dreadfully upsetting because she was calling my name and begging me to go and see her, but of course I couldn’t. Every time I see that smarmy bastard making excuses reduces me to tears. My Mum calling for me is something I will never forget

Mrsdof It is very sad to hear about your mother, and I'm sure we all send our condolences. But how can you blame Boris when it was the virus that killed her. The virus does what viruses are very good at, spreading from person to person, and your mother was at such an advanced age it is very unlikely she would survive it. You are understandably upset about the manner and circumstances surrounding her death, but I don't see how you can blame Boris for that.

Have you any idea how insensitive to say that an elderly person who dies from covid would have died anyway. It happened to me last year when my 96 year old friend died from covid and the remarks I had at the time still hurt.

Chestnut your last post was, to use a cliche, so wrong on every level

I am sure that during that time many other workplace 'meetings' were held countrywide. I don't agree that it was right as many of us went through heartache and fear, but the pressure for those making such huge decisions at a time where the country and indeed the world were trying to deal with a little known virus was immense. I just wish they and the PM. were open and honest about their actions when first challenged about their behaviour during this and other incidents.

Certainly not by my workplace.

Michael Rosen yesterday on Twitter, quote…

‘It’s my party, I’ll lie if I want to’

Alegrias1

*Chestnut*, you are unbelieveable.

I realise I'm on your 'blacklist' so anything I say will be pure poison to you. We all have our opinions and I guess some of the recent remarks on this thread must be really winding you up ?

Read the other posts.

Line overstepped.

Chestnut so now you are ‘crying with laughter’.
You really are being very insensitive now.

No way!!

MayBee70

Chestnut

Mrsdof

NO! NEVER! My Mum died in hospital at 101yrs old from COVID in Oct. 2020 and the nurse called me to say she only had a very short time left and would I like to speak to her because she was crying for me. I did but it was dreadfully upsetting because she was calling my name and begging me to go and see her, but of course I couldn’t. Every time I see that smarmy bastard making excuses reduces me to tears. My Mum calling for me is something I will never forget

Mrsdof It is very sad to hear about your mother, and I'm sure we all send our condolences. But how can you blame Boris when it was the virus that killed her. The virus does what viruses are very good at, spreading from person to person, and your mother was at such an advanced age it is very unlikely she would survive it. You are understandably upset about the manner and circumstances surrounding her death, but I don't see how you can blame Boris for that.

Have you any idea how insensitive to say that an elderly person who dies from covid would have died anyway. It happened to me last year when my 96 year old friend died from covid and the remarks I had at the time still hurt.

I didn't say she 'would have died anyway'. What nonsense. She would not have died if she had not caught the virus. I'm sure you know how deadly the virus was to the very elderly 90s and over which is why they were the first to be vaccinated.

No it's the latest 'last straw' he's gotta go. Trouble is the next one may be accepted by the ajority after such a traumatic term with this idiot and they'll get in AGAIN! We never learn.

FannyCornforth

Chestnut so now you are ‘crying with laughter’.
You really are being very insensitive now.

Insensitive to what? That relates to that one post where someone popped up and called me 'unbelievable', not to any other posts, so what are you talking about?

On second thoughts, don't answer that. I really don't want to know.

I don’t disagree with Chestnut. I’m getting fed up with all the people the media are trotting out to tell their stories of the very sad things happening in their lives when the do was held. The media have invited people to get in touch with their stories in a mawkish attempt to stir things up. Yes the stories are all very sad but we don’t yet have all the details of what happened and I’m sure everyone here has experienced the disbelief that life is going on when our personal world has temporarily ceased to turn. I’m no supporter of Boris but he did not cause the deaths. I just wish people would stop saying this was going on when x was happening in my life when they knew nothing of it until a few days ago.

The fact is that Boris is a serial liar never mind the rest. You would not have anyone in your friends circle who was perpetually massaging the truth and taking you for a fool, so why would one want someone like that as PM?

Not knowing doesn't excuse it.

Thank God for media.

Chestnut

On second thoughts, don't answer that. I really don't want to know.

Never mind. I’m going to explain anyway.
It’s up to you whether you read.

A lot of people are genuinely traumatised by the events of the past few days.

People like the poster whose mum died asking for her, are questioning if they did the correct thing by following ‘the rules’.

They now wish that, like Johnson and his mates, had just ignored them and gone ahead and seen their ill or dying relative etc.

They are questioning if they did ‘the right thing’.

And yesterday JRM suggested that Johnson and his mates were unable to keep to ‘the rules’ (that they made) because they were too difficult to keep.

Mrsdof ♥️

Chestnut

FannyCornforth

Chestnut so now you are ‘crying with laughter’.
You really are being very insensitive now.

Insensitive to what? That relates to that one post where someone popped up and called me 'unbelievable', not to any other posts, so what are you talking about?

''You are understandably upset about the manner and circumstances surrounding her death, but I don't see how you can blame Boris for that.''

this is unbelievably insensitive and cruel. Mrsdof doesn't blame Johnson for the demise of her mother to the virus- but about the, fact she could NOT be with her, hold her hand, and tell her to go in peace- because she obeyed the rules Johnson made- WHICH HE CLEARLY FLOUTED, AGAIN AND SOME MORE - for jollies with his mates. If you can't see that, I truly despair.

Mrsdof, my sincere condoleances. I was not able to be with my mother, due to distance. But it is so wrong you could not be there, whilst Johnson and co had party fun. hugs

No! No! No!
That is a resounding no from me!