Part of me wants him to cling on……

To be clear, I don’t vote Conservative. Only this once to get us out of Europe.

Now I must leave as babysitting beckons....

growstuff - last time we voted the conservatives in meant Brexit was actioned. Status Quo certainly not conserved.

HolySox

growstuff - last time we voted the conservatives in meant Brexit was actioned. Status Quo certainly not conserved.

I was talking generally.

Many of the people who voted Conservative in the last election weren't natural Conservative voters.

DiscoDancer1975

To be clear, I don’t vote Conservative. Only this once to get us out of Europe.

Now I must leave as babysitting beckons....

Who's babysitting you?

DiscoDancer1975

To be clear, I don’t vote Conservative. Only this once to get us out of Europe.

Now I must leave as babysitting beckons....

So you do vote Conservative then?

Excuse 157b coming into play again...

Urmstongran

The seismic shock that reverberated around the UK upon the result of the referendum was so deep it is still a source of exquisite pain to many. Sadly, they do need to accept it though and move on, albeit with bitterness.

Absolutely, and it was followed by another seismic shock which was covid. Boris has had to navigate us through both, the most turbulent period since WW2. I am not a follower of Boris but I do give him credit for holding on to the ship's mast and not falling overboard. Although maybe he has now! I've seen him face some of the most hostile attacks in the Commons ever witnessed and not fall apart in front of our very eyes. So I do admire him for his ability to stand firm in the face of enemy attack.

Eh? How can you claim he hasn't fallen apart? Most of his replies in the HoC are jibberish.

I do give him credit for holding on to the ship's mast and not falling overboard.

While the rest of us were left to slide off the deck with no help from him whatsoever.

*gibberish

Alegrias1

^I do give him credit for holding on to the ship's mast and not falling overboard.^

While the rest of us were left to slide off the deck with no help from him whatsoever.

He took too long to sort out a lifebelt contract for his mates/donors.

I'm trying to think of some Scylla and Charybdis joke but I'm failing so far. Give me time.

"I don't vote Conservative...but I do". That's got to rank on a par with "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"...

Blondiescot

"I don't vote Conservative...but I do". That's got to rank on a par with "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"...

If you're referring to me giving Boris credit for something (despite his many failings) firstly I never voted Conservative in my whole life until Labour made such a pig's ear of running the country. After that I started voting Conservative in desperation to keep them out. That does not make me a follower or supporter of Boris. I know he's a walking disaster area and someone else would be better. I don't admire Boris, I just give credit where I think it's due and that could apply to anyone. Even Corbyn has his good points ?

So you don't vote Conservative except when you vote Conservative?

I didn't vote Conservative until after the last Labour government. Is that too much to understand?

Voting conservative then saying you don't vote conservative.

It's not us with the comprehension problems.

No Chestnut. That description at 17:48 was easy to understand and also explained why one DD-an ardent Labour supporter switched after L were last in power.

"What loss of trade?-I have one son who works all the time with Europe. He was worried this would go. It hasn’t. In fact their workload has increased. The same with my husband who takes European Research. No problem at all." posts a brexit supporter.

One notable characteristic of brexit supporters has always been a tendency to quote anecdotal evidence rather than serious analyses.

The appalling damage which has been done to UK export trade because of brexit is starkly set out in these charts from the OBR.

obr.uk/box/the-initial-impact-of-brexit-on-uk-trade-with-the-eu/

Chestnut

Blondiescot

"I don't vote Conservative...but I do". That's got to rank on a par with "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"...

If you're referring to me giving Boris credit for something (despite his many failings) firstly I never voted Conservative in my whole life until Labour made such a pig's ear of running the country. After that I started voting Conservative in desperation to keep them out. That does not make me a follower or supporter of Boris. I know he's a walking disaster area and someone else would be better. I don't admire Boris, I just give credit where I think it's due and that could apply to anyone. Even Corbyn has his good points ?

I was actually referring to DiscoDancer1975, but if the cap fits...

Labour or Conservative anyone can see the faults in a leader whose own Party do not respect him enough to obey what he is telling Joe public to do especially when he is breaking the rules himself.
Boris is what Max Hastings said he was right at the begining though will the Concervative party get rid of him? I think not if they believe he could win the next election for them.

varian

"What loss of trade?-I have one son who works all the time with Europe. He was worried this would go. It hasn’t. In fact their workload has increased. The same with my husband who takes European Research. No problem at all." posts a brexit supporter.

One notable characteristic of brexit supporters has always been a tendency to quote anecdotal evidence rather than serious analyses.

The appalling damage which has been done to UK export trade because of brexit is starkly set out in these charts from the OBR.

obr.uk/box/the-initial-impact-of-brexit-on-uk-trade-with-the-eu/

Noone is surprised by these graphs. We've only just left. Of course they did state it is difficult to determine how much the figures are skewed because of the pandemic. Also lot of UK/EU trade has suffered due to border changes. This may yet recover.
As I've said before such a drop is expected and it has not been the calamity remainders feared. I have confidence Britain will still prosper in years to come as we adapt to our new position in the world. Certainly worth not selling out our nationality to the EU - whoever they may be.

Remainders? Sorry remainers of course.

But we never sold our "nationality". The French are still French, the Germans are German, etc etc. They have their own languages, customs and traditions.

Nationality? Whatever that may be!

Blondiescot

Chestnut

Blondiescot

"I don't vote Conservative...but I do". That's got to rank on a par with "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"...

If you're referring to me giving Boris credit for something (despite his many failings) firstly I never voted Conservative in my whole life until Labour made such a pig's ear of running the country. After that I started voting Conservative in desperation to keep them out. That does not make me a follower or supporter of Boris. I know he's a walking disaster area and someone else would be better. I don't admire Boris, I just give credit where I think it's due and that could apply to anyone. Even Corbyn has his good points ?

I was actually referring to DiscoDancer1975, but if the cap fits...

Maybe you should quote the message you're referring to otherwise no-one knows what you're talking about. And I think Disco Dancer made it perfectly clear she voted Conservative once to ensure Brexit went through. That doesn't make her a long time Conservative voter so the sarcastic remark was uncalled for.

War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, and Ignorance is Strength.

I vote(d) Conservative but I don't vote Conservative.

Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.