Speaking the truth about brexit

What a Complete and utter disaster Brexit is we will see poverty like we have never seen before ,in the next few years ,just like it was after the war , I agree Brussels needed to reform however in my view we’ve thrown the baby out with the bath water , we have no manufacturing to speak of ,
I was so sad the younger generation didn’t get out of bed to vote .
Why oh why did it have to be a 50 50 vote why not a 60 40 ,
We were told lies lies and more lies ,
England as we knew it has gone ,

MaizieD
Could the removal of the oligarchs’ access to their I’ll-gotten gains could have something to do with this?

www.investmentmonitor.ai/analysis/two-years-brexit-uk-eu

Zoe65

Gilly cats ,how I agree.i too am sick of the extreme left views on these gn threads .This is not the majority view in this country or we woukd have a corbanist government .
This remainder attitude needs to stop.You can’t blame everything on brexit when there is a war with ukraine plus the after results of covid.to contend with .
The opening quote is from the guardian,a left wing newspaper which really says it all .

Not all of those who voted remain are left wing and not all leave voters are right wing.

I can't recall any evidence of extreme left wing views on GN.

Even when the majority view is Conservative (which it wasn't at the election and it isn't now) other views are still valid, informative and worth hearing.

Jeremy's name is Corbyn.

We can't blame everything on Brexit, but when our country's economy is doing worse than everyone in the G20 (except Russia) you have to ask why are all the other countries who didn't choose to leave the EU coping better with the effects of the war in Ukraine and Covid than we are. It isn't Covid. It isn't the terrible war. It is Brexit!!

The impact of Brexit on UK financial markets:-

Amsterdam has replaced London as Europe’s biggest financial trading centre.

Over 440 banking and finance organisations have left the UK and relocated to the EU

Approximately 10% of UK bank assets (totalling over £900 billion) have moved, or are in the process of moving, to the EU

7,400 financial services jobs have moved, leading to concern that new jobs may be created in the EU rather than the UK in the future

www.ideagen.com/thought-leadership/blog/the-uk-economy-after-brexit-what-s-next-for-financial-services

I voted for Brexit, believing that we would take a 10 year economic hit. I firmly believe that things will settle down. But if we hadn't left the EU then the issue of sovereignty would not have changed. Being governed by Brussels was never a good idea and was never the original intention. It's a huge, unwieldy and extraordinarily expensive organisation.

Being governed by Brussels was never a good idea and was never the original intention.

We were never governed by Brussels.
We voted in our own MEPs who were part of the policy and decision making process.
We made the vast majority of our own laws and were involved and in agreement with the laws that came from the EU.

fullfact.org/europe/uk-law-what-proportion-influenced-eu/

I live near the border in N.ireland and I'm very upset that relations between UK and Republic of Ireland are at an all time low thanks to Brexit. Only one political party here, DUP wanted Brexit and supported Boris Johnson's campaign but they are now complaining loudly, and refusing to go into government, because of the protocol which Boris Johnson agreed to. The Good Friday Agreement is far to important so must be protected. I don't think most people who voted for Brexit were thinking about all of the UK and certainly not about N.ireland, the only part of UK with a land border with another country.

Returning back to Sir Antony Gormley, Brexit has had a detrimental impact on the Creative industries.

www.spiked-online.com/2022/06/12/antony-gormley-and-the-myth-of-a-progressive-eu/

Dinahmo

The main reason Brexit was rushed through was the EU law being brought in January 2020 to address tax avoidance and money laundering.

Yes, I believe this is true.

I know a lot of people that didn’t vote, and mainly young people, and all their friends, they didn’t vote as they didn’t ever think leave EU would win. I really feel with 52% I believe it was? We should of had a second vote … thoughts?

NemosMum

www.spiked-online.com/2022/06/12/antony-gormley-and-the-myth-of-a-progressive-eu/

I'd never heard of Spiked before. It has the word "woke" nine times on its landing page and says gun control in the US would be racist. The author JJ Charlesworth on his Twitter says that the young should step forward and get Covid so that they can help the older folks later. I don't think he's a person to be seriously listened to.

The Gormley article is full of laughable misinterpretations.

Don't suppose I'll be looking at Spiked again.

Zoe65: Madashell,as you seem to think so little of your own country ,why don’t you go and live in your pre cious eu!

Pathetic comment. Madashell's livelihood has been seriously damaged by Brexit but the best you can do is to suggest she should move. You should be ashamed of yourself.

volver

NemosMum

www.spiked-online.com/2022/06/12/antony-gormley-and-the-myth-of-a-progressive-eu/

I'd never heard of Spiked before. It has the word "woke" nine times on its landing page and says gun control in the US would be racist. The author JJ Charlesworth on his Twitter says that the young should step forward and get Covid so that they can help the older folks later. I don't think he's a person to be seriously listened to.

The Gormley article is full of laughable misinterpretations.

Don't suppose I'll be looking at Spiked again.

Spiked is a magazine of the far right. Funded for a while by the libertarian, far right Koch brothers. supporters of Trump.

Not a source I would trust..

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiked_(magazine)

Milliedog

I voted for Brexit, believing that we would take a 10 year economic hit. I firmly believe that things will settle down. But if we hadn't left the EU then the issue of sovereignty would not have changed. Being governed by Brussels was never a good idea and was never the original intention. It's a huge, unwieldy and extraordinarily expensive organisation.

One of the most inexpensive civil services in the western world in fact.

Yes I hated the money that Brussels spent on pointless issues such as the shape of bananas, etc but I voted to remain as the EU brought in good employment laws. I still don't trust the government to try to turn the clock back. I expected problems but not as big as this - the issues have been made worse due to Covid.
The vote should have included children from the age of 16 as it was their future.

The shape of bananas?

Johnson made that up. Years ago. You're not still using that as an excuse are you?

Milliedog

I voted for Brexit, believing that we would take a 10 year economic hit. I firmly believe that things will settle down. But if we hadn't left the EU then the issue of sovereignty would not have changed. Being governed by Brussels was never a good idea and was never the original intention. It's a huge, unwieldy and extraordinarily expensive organisation.

That's appalling, accepting a 10 year economic hit. Ten years is a long time in anyone's life. How could you be so complacent about something that could make a tremendous, probably adverse, effect on someone else's life?

It that’s the reason that leavers are going to try to argue the case we are sunk for sure. Yes the EU does regulate the specification of fruit and vegetables, to ensure fair trade the UK does the same.
In practice it’s the beaurocracy that supermarkets impose on their suppliers that is the real problem on top of any national regulations.

The BBC has printed an apology stating their claims Anthony Gormley was leaving UK because of Brexit were untrue. Mr Gormley is renewing his German passport which he can hold because his mother was German, but loves UK and does not intend leaving.

And the rabidly right wing ERG are now in charge. They have Johnson in their clutches. He will agree to anything they say to stay in power. I fear for Northern Ireland and the Good Friday Agreement.

Interesting how there are some names on here defending Brexit that I've never red before. Are they Russian bots? Or maybe living in a cave? To still be going on about straight bananas - they obviously have read or seen nothing during the last few years apart from the right wing press.

Unmitigated disaster. Millions sleepwalked into it believing time could be reversed and Britain would go back to some fairytale land of long ago (long ago was not that good in any event). Alas like it or not the hypnotic messages put about by an assortment of Pied Pipers led many to believe the spin and outright lies.

Dinahmo

Interesting how there are some names on here defending Brexit that I've never red before. Are they Russian bots? Or maybe living in a cave? To still be going on about straight bananas - they obviously have read or seen nothing during the last few years apart from the right wing press.

To be fair, the poster who mentioned bananas voted Remain...

It's odd how that completely made up story cut through, though, isn't it?