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Ignore Nicola Sturgeon. She’s just an attention seeker.

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volver Tue 02-Aug-22 09:08:05

So. The person who is likely to be our next Prime Minister told the party faithful at a hustings in Exeter that the best thing to do about Sturgeon is to ignore her. When told by the moderator that NS was democratically elected to her position, Truss said NS is just an attention seeker. Cue lots of excited clapping and cheering.

This is the woman who is meant to be our senior diplomat, who will be in the company of world leaders. NS was elected by 48% (or so) of the electorate of her country, Truss will inherit the job by getting the votes of something like 0.03% of the electorate. Ignore Sturgeon, you’re ignoring half the population of Scotland and telling them that you know better what’s good for them.

It’s the number one story up here but I don’t know how much its being reported in rUK.

Last week I called her a Welsh carrot. (You had to be there wink) But it seems I over estimated her. She’s lost the place, as we say up here.

Riverwalk Tue 02-Aug-22 14:32:05

On the matter of living abroad - I read/heard somewhere that Tory party members don't have to be British, never mind live here!

I can't find any verification or otherwise on this, does anyone know?

Casdon Tue 02-Aug-22 14:34:31

I think this is about much wider issues than whether Scotland stays in the UK actually, I think it is one of a number of signals of the way Truss views people and countries who don’t share her vision. Hence the stupid statements about taking on Putin, the EU, etc. etc. We are in for a very rocky ride.

Callistemon21 Tue 02-Aug-22 14:38:29

Casdon

I think this is about much wider issues than whether Scotland stays in the UK actually, I think it is one of a number of signals of the way Truss views people and countries who don’t share her vision. Hence the stupid statements about taking on Putin, the EU, etc. etc. We are in for a very rocky ride.

Yes, the Scottish referendum is a red herring in this debate.

As I said, I find the prospect quite frightening. I hope she will have advisers who manage to rein her in if she becomes PM.

Lucca Tue 02-Aug-22 14:38:51

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Lucca Tue 02-Aug-22 14:47:23

Callistemon21

Prentice

Yorkshire people do speak more bluntly than here in the South.
Not diplomatic perhaps, but many people do like that.
I suppose that half the Scottish people may well agree with the remarks? They really do not want to leave our union.

There's blunt and there's downright rude and offensive. And silly.

Sweeping generalisation. Im Yorkshire. My bloke is, my mothers side of the family are and we aren’t “blunt”.

Callistemon21 Tue 02-Aug-22 14:54:33

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Baggytrazzas Tue 02-Aug-22 14:56:59

Robin49

Kandinsky

It doesn't bode well for our relationship with Scotland at a time when we certainly don't need further division and disharmony

????

NS & the SNP want out of the UK.
They absolutely HATE being part of the UK & want independence ASAP.

Good luck to them, the sooner they go the better. Then the EU can have them because they’ll never be truly independent’ - they’ll just be free from England which is all they want.

Completely agree with you. Please just go Scotland.

Robin49 and Kandinsky - we will go, just as soon as possible, and many would appreciate any assistance you can provide in that respect.
And as far as I am aware, "being free of England" and becoming a member of the EU are two separate issues - you seem to have rolled these together.

I am neither particularly a SNP or NS lover but will vote for whichever party appears to have the best interests of Scotland at its heart.

To have someone in the running for PM who cannot show basic respect in public for the First Minister is completely wrong. People in these positions shouldn't need to be told how to behave.

And as a nation we usually get along quite well with our neighbours so its relatively unusual to be hearing that some of our neighbours want to push us collectively into the North Sea. Although I can see that others would like the border to be brought further south. Best watch out - if that happened, we might then be able to push some of England into the channel !

Its nice to be neighbourly, eh?

Farzanah Tue 02-Aug-22 15:27:41

The local pay for public service workers and the £10 fine idea are just on the hoof, unworkable, ill thought previously rejected policies, where both candidates are trying to outdo each other in the race to the bottom.
We are stuck with this stupidity for the next two years sadly.
I can remember the fines for missed appointments brainwave and it is clearly impractical and if ever carried out would be the start of paying for some free services - thin end of the wedge. I know my GPs wouldn’t mind a few missed appointments, they have too many per hour as it is and always over run.

NotSpaghetti Tue 02-Aug-22 15:28:27

Ignore Nicola Sturgeon. She’s just an attention seeker

As others have said, a bit ripe from the attention-seeker in chief

Who else thinks they need a personal photographer??
It must be a joke!
grin

Riverwalk Tue 02-Aug-22 15:41:26

Lucca

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Was it the carrot?

MaizieD Tue 02-Aug-22 15:49:46

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Farzanah Tue 02-Aug-22 15:51:59

Wot????

MaizieD Tue 02-Aug-22 15:54:03

Farzanah

Wot????

Look up the welsh word for carrot.

There is some lurking Gnetter who finds it overly insulting when applied to Ms Truss.

Callistemon21 Tue 02-Aug-22 15:55:37

I mentioned pen maip

Casdon Tue 02-Aug-22 15:56:55

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Yammy Tue 02-Aug-22 15:58:27

I thought he was going to fine them £10 for being a N.S. Which hopefully would stop them from doing it again and blocking appointments that some people need, some people do it regularly.
Hospitals and GP surgeries show quite a high percentage of no-shows. Yes, the people who are waiting will get a quicker turn. Though the appointment could have been given to someone else, not on the day but by notification in the usual way.

Callistemon21 Tue 02-Aug-22 15:58:42

Casdon

MaizieD

Farzanah

Wot????

Look up the welsh word for carrot.

There is some lurking Gnetter who finds it overly insulting when applied to Ms Truss.

That person is also a Welsh carrot for not having the guts to say they had reported. Why not just say on the thread if you disagree with what somebody has said?

I agree.

It was very swift.

MaizieD Tue 02-Aug-22 16:00:06

Farzanah

The local pay for public service workers and the £10 fine idea are just on the hoof, unworkable, ill thought previously rejected policies, where both candidates are trying to outdo each other in the race to the bottom.
We are stuck with this stupidity for the next two years sadly.
I can remember the fines for missed appointments brainwave and it is clearly impractical and if ever carried out would be the start of paying for some free services - thin end of the wedge. I know my GPs wouldn’t mind a few missed appointments, they have too many per hour as it is and always over run.

It would be more to the point if Sunak acknowledged that the NHS is at crisis point, underfunded, understaffed and overloaded with work.

Missed appointments aren't necessarily the fault of the patient. There are plenty of stories here on Gnet of appointments missed because of letters that didn't arrive until after the date or that went to completely the wrong address. And people turning up for appointments only to find they've been cancelled. It's all symptomatic of a service being run on a shoestring with out of date IT and overworked staff.

But that's what the tories want because it's an excuse for privatistion.

Callistemon21 Tue 02-Aug-22 16:00:40

Yammy

I thought he was going to fine them £10 for being a N.S. Which hopefully would stop them from doing it again and blocking appointments that some people need, some people do it regularly.
Hospitals and GP surgeries show quite a high percentage of no-shows. Yes, the people who are waiting will get a quicker turn. Though the appointment could have been given to someone else, not on the day but by notification in the usual way.

There have been lots of no-shows here because the texts, emails and letters went out after the appointment time.
So should a patient be given £10 because their appointment was delayed as a consequence?

Lucca Tue 02-Aug-22 16:01:00

Guess so ??

MaizieD Tue 02-Aug-22 16:05:17

Callistemon21

Casdon

MaizieD

Farzanah

Wot????

Look up the welsh word for carrot.

There is some lurking Gnetter who finds it overly insulting when applied to Ms Truss.

That person is also a Welsh carrot for not having the guts to say they had reported. Why not just say on the thread if you disagree with what somebody has said?

I agree.

It was very swift.

We did go through all this a day or two ago, when it was volver who used the taboo word. One or two people did object on the thread, which was fair enough, but it was reported and deleted all the same.

I wonder if 'welsh' and 'carrot' are now on the banned list hmm

volver Tue 02-Aug-22 16:11:17

Yammy

I thought he was going to fine them £10 for being a N.S. Which hopefully would stop them from doing it again and blocking appointments that some people need, some people do it regularly.
Hospitals and GP surgeries show quite a high percentage of no-shows. Yes, the people who are waiting will get a quicker turn. Though the appointment could have been given to someone else, not on the day but by notification in the usual way.

Any idea why they don't show?

Maybe because their appointment letter arrived too late, or not at all?
Or their bus, on which they depend, didn't show up?
Or they were given their appointment so long ago that they have forgotten it? (My hospital check up appointments are given a year in advance, BTW)
Or they have cognitive impairment and didn't even know they had an appointment?
Or they are scared?
Or their car broke down?

Or are they all just missing them on purpose because they don't care? There needs to be an understanding of why people are missing appointments, not instant sanctioning.

volver Tue 02-Aug-22 16:12:34

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volver Tue 02-Aug-22 16:24:34

Right then. Now we know. Orange vegetables are banned. ?