Diana’s death. This makes for interesting reading

But they weren’t her security team, i.e. royal security, as she had ditched it.

They were Fayed’s, Dodi and his dad’s.

I suppose they're all just 'staff's to those who use them.

Exactly Calendargirl. That's what I meant, but why would she, in that moment, feel any less trusting?

X post MissAdventure. Yes.

Recently I saw an overhead photograph of the car and the front was a crushed inverted V shape; the back where the passengers sat was like a steel box. Had they worn their seat belts they would have survived.
I believe Henri Paul had ingested the equivalent of 11 shots of whisky. a mixture of cold remedies, alcohol and drugs. How often do (legal) drug packets say 'do not drink or drive whilst taking this medicine'.

If that's the case I'm surprised he was able to get into the car, let alone drive it.

Practised drinkers/alcoholics are able to disguise their condition.

Later photographs have shown that Trevor R-J fastened his seat belt just before the crash, ie probably when they flew into that tunnel at 65 mph, when the speed limit was 30mph. As for the driver? As you say, I'm amazed he could stand never mind drive!! Perhaps they didn't wear seat belts in the back because they are sometimes a bit fiddly to clip in, I found this out when travelling in the back of DGD's car fairly recently. Who knows?
I think we are discussing this because?? We want to!!

Goodness, still so many conflicting opinions.

Someone asked me the question recently "Why did it take so long for the emergency services to get Diana to hospital? Was it delayed deliberately?"

This question was answered at the inquest years ago

The ambulance carrying the dying Diana, Princess of Wales to hospital was deliberately driven slowly due to the severity of her injuries, an inquest heard today. The ambulance driver told the inquest jury that the onboard doctor ordered him to drive slowly in an attempt to save the princess's life

www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/nov/14/monarchy.davidbatty

The circumstances leading up to this were manipulated and orchestrated by MF and his cohorts but I firmly believe her death was an accident, probably one that could have been avoided if she had not been so easily led.
She had also been manipulated by Bashir.
Her reactions to life's problems were not always very mature.

I find it quite incredulous that henri Paul could walk with all he consumed and that he could disguise the smell on his breath, if only he could have been stopped from driving! So very sad, but I do think the fastening of safety belts would be quite easy to clip in jaberwok as it was surely a top of the range car they used!

Long-term heavy drinkers can function surprisingly well when the rest of us would be under the table. And Mercedes seat belt clips aren’t fiddly - I was driving a Mercedes AMG back then, same model I believe as was involved in the crash.

I find it interesting that there were two letters, one with Lord Mischon where she forecast she would die in a car crash and it would have been orchestrated. I mean you can be paranoid and think people are out to get you, but how many times does anyone with such tendencies actually get the manner of their death right?

There have been intensive investigations, but still people refuse to believe the results. Henri Paul's family said the medical findings had been tampered with.
I remember the case of James Hanratty who was hanged for murder in the 1950/60s . His family insisted he was innocent , his landlady gave him an alibi , and they said the girl he raped and shot who identified him was lying.(her lover was murdered). When DNA tests were applied to their clothes years after his execution it proved he was there, he had raped and he had murdered. The landlady admitted she had 'made a mistake' about the date, but the family insisted the samples had been tampered with.

I firmly believe it was nothing more than a accident,

Callistemon21

Goodness, still so many conflicting opinions.

Someone asked me the question recently "Why did it take so long for the emergency services to get Diana to hospital? Was it delayed deliberately?"

This question was answered at the inquest years ago

The ambulance carrying the dying Diana, Princess of Wales to hospital was deliberately driven slowly due to the severity of her injuries, an inquest heard today. The ambulance driver told the inquest jury that the onboard doctor ordered him to drive slowly in an attempt to save the princess's life

www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/nov/14/monarchy.davidbatty

The circumstances leading up to this were manipulated and orchestrated by MF and his cohorts but I firmly believe her death was an accident, probably one that could have been avoided if she had not been so easily led.
She had also been manipulated by Bashir.
Her reactions to life's problems were not always very mature.

Good post Callistemon21

Informative and rational.

The slow ambulance ride makes sense.

I'm just depressed at the way conspiracy theories take hold and are dressed up as fact by some.

Glorianny

I find it interesting that there were two letters, one with Lord Mischon where she forecast she would die in a car crash and it would have been orchestrated. I mean you can be paranoid and think people are out to get you, but how many times does anyone with such tendencies actually get the manner of their death right?

A car crash is the most likely method to be written off as an accident, so a logical thought process?

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Glorianny

I find it interesting that there were two letters, one with Lord Mischon where she forecast she would die in a car crash and it would have been orchestrated. I mean you can be paranoid and think people are out to get you, but how many times does anyone with such tendencies actually get the manner of their death right?

A car crash is the most likely method to be written off as an accident, so a logical thought process?

Possibly. But Diana had a lot of problems and a history of mental health issues, her suicide attempts were known. Much easier to fake a successful one I would have thought, and certainly what you might imagine would be done.

A staged car crash is a known method of professional ‘assassination’. She probably was aware of that.

How could this have been staged or planned? To do this the perpetrators would have to know that they would be driving in a certain place at a certain time, and unless it's a regular routine no one can know this. Yes I'm sure you are right about the rear seat belts. DGD's car although a lovely nearly new Nissan is not of course, top of the range. She has just joined the Ambulance Service as an apprentice,(as you can hear, we are immensely proud of her,) but her salary wouldn't run to top of the range!!

The intelligence services have ways of knowing things, and of covering all bases.

All those who suspect a conspiracy should watch the 4-part programme on Channel 4 recently. The 2 separate investigations, spread over years, by independent French and then independent British authorities explain everything and could not have been more thorough.

It was said by a car crash expert that the crash in the tunnel was survivable if Diana and Dodi had been wearing seatbelts.

Al Fayed could not substantiate a single one of his accusations.

All this was well known and discussed in the immediate aftermath of her death.

The biggest argument against murder is that anyone in the car wearing a seat belt properly done up survived. If Princess Diana had been wearing a seatbelt she would be with us still.

To not wear her seatbelt was her decision and not one any one else could influence.. Also the driver was drunk.

Exactly Monica

Glorianny

I find it interesting that there were two letters, one with Lord Mischon where she forecast she would die in a car crash and it would have been orchestrated. I mean you can be paranoid and think people are out to get you, but how many times does anyone with such tendencies actually get the manner of their death right?

That is weird.

The car crash was not orchestrated. She got in a car with a driver who had been drinking, she did not wear a seatbelt when he was speeding at night. Recipe for disaster. Did they think they were immune from accidents?

They changed their plans so few people knew what they were at that particular time either.

Where they were, not what