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Truss going on tour with Charles

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Zonne Sat 10-Sept-22 21:30:05

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/09/10/king-liz-truss-tour-uk-share-grief-late-queens-death/

Is this appropriate?

I think it makes him look political. I can see some of goodwill people seem to have for him leaching away as a consequence.

But I dislike both the monarchy and Truss, so recognise I’m a tad biased.

cc Mon 12-Sept-22 12:41:17

SueDonim

That seems very odd. What is she going to do? According to that report, it sounds like she’ll be a third wheel while the King and Queen (how very strange to write that) meet people.

I don't think she should be there. I'm sure that she's doing it for reasons of self-egrandisment and it just isn't appropriate. She should be getting to grips with the job of PM, not swanning about with anyone.
(Travelling with someone like Truss is my idea of hell in any case!)

DaisyAnne Mon 12-Sept-22 12:43:59

Thank you for the link "OldRose". It seems that Truss's team (and Truss) have made a complete hash of things - nothing new there then.

Ministers have started tentative conversations about whether to cancel parts of the party conference recess in order to make up time for parliamentary business – including passing the new energy bills relief package.

Truss will face a nightmarish schedule for parliamentary business in the days after the funeral on Monday 19 September, with parliament set to rise for recess on Thursday 22 September.

Why, oh why, is she going at all other than jumping on the Queens/Kings bandwagon. It really rather distasteful.

Nannina Mon 12-Sept-22 12:46:48

It’s wrong and blurs the Royal/politic divide. I don’t think it will do either of them any good

Whitewavemark2 Mon 12-Sept-22 12:48:44

DA distasteful is right.

Whenever are the Tories going to actually govern!

Startingover61 Mon 12-Sept-22 12:52:07

I agree with all those in favour of Liz Truss accompanying the King on this forthcoming tour.

Usernametaken Mon 12-Sept-22 13:02:22

MaizieD. Agree with you 100%. So much nastiness. And if we didn’t have a Monarchy, can you imagine having a President!!!!
Millions of people grieving for her majesty tell another story.

DaisyAnne Mon 12-Sept-22 13:09:12

Whitewavemark2

DA distasteful is right.

Whenever are the Tories going to actually govern!

Wasn't that what she promised to do? She has a totally different job, and she needs to get on with it. Silly PM.

DaisyAnne Mon 12-Sept-22 13:10:39

Startingover61

I agree with all those in favour of Liz Truss accompanying the King on this forthcoming tour.

Who has actually said it is a good idea?

sharonarnott Mon 12-Sept-22 13:11:25

BigBertha1

I think it's unusual but not inappropriate. I think we will a lot of new ways of doing things. Some will work some wont. At the moment everyone is trying to do their best.

I totally agree. It's time people stopped living in the dark ages and started modernising some of these old practices.

I'm not a liz truss supporter but I have no problems with this whatsoever. Has anybody ever thought that she might be doing it because she has been invited by the King.

Interested Mon 12-Sept-22 13:14:13

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/11/liz-truss-not-accompanying-king-charles-on-uk-tour-says-no-10

Truss is not accompanying Charles.

Rosina Mon 12-Sept-22 13:17:50

Did anyone hear the Australian man who said they would far rather keep the Monarchy than have a Putin or a Trump?
A commentator on TV a few days ago said that the 'Grand Tour' for the King, Queen and Prime Minister was because they were all new, and it seemed appropriate to meet the people. Why is it assumed that this will influence anybody's politics? Seeing the PM and the King together wouldn't make me vote differently.
As for the table arrangement - what a fiasco! Whoever chose to put the inkwells at the bottom edge of the table, when they should have been at the top, above the document, wasn't thinking about trying to sign and potentially knocking the inkwell on the floor or worse still over the document. Bigger table needed, inkwell at side of document - I could have set that out in a far beter way! There - that's several matters off my chest - I'm off for lunch with my DD.

Keffie12 Mon 12-Sept-22 13:23:52

Zonne

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/09/10/king-liz-truss-tour-uk-share-grief-late-queens-death/

Is this appropriate?

I think it makes him look political. I can see some of goodwill people seem to have for him leaching away as a consequence.

But I dislike both the monarchy and Truss, so recognise I’m a tad biased.

I've read it isn't true! That news of it being untrue came from no 10

Whitewavemark2 Mon 12-Sept-22 13:26:21

sharonarnott

BigBertha1

I think it's unusual but not inappropriate. I think we will a lot of new ways of doing things. Some will work some wont. At the moment everyone is trying to do their best.

I totally agree. It's time people stopped living in the dark ages and started modernising some of these old practices.

I'm not a liz truss supporter but I have no problems with this whatsoever. Has anybody ever thought that she might be doing it because she has been invited by the King.

What people are overlooking is the constitutional separation of powers between the legislature - parliament of which Truss is part and the executive which includes the monarchy and government.

However monarchy must be seen to be politically neutral, (revolution might happen if he is seen as biased) and Truss has been advised to keep her nose out.

DaisyAnne Mon 12-Sept-22 13:27:02

sharonarnott

BigBertha1

I think it's unusual but not inappropriate. I think we will a lot of new ways of doing things. Some will work some wont. At the moment everyone is trying to do their best.

I totally agree. It's time people stopped living in the dark ages and started modernising some of these old practices.

I'm not a liz truss supporter but I have no problems with this whatsoever. Has anybody ever thought that she might be doing it because she has been invited by the King.

But why is she doing it? She has a mountain of work, a lot to get through in a shortened Parliament and both Energy, Finance and Health (to name just the currently obvious) are in crisis.

Why does she feel the need to add to that? It is not her job. It can only be for self-aggrandisement unless you have another reason to offer. She needs to get on with what she was sponsored, by her party, to do.

greenlady102 Mon 12-Sept-22 13:35:25

not true apparently www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/11/liz-truss-not-accompanying-king-charles-on-uk-tour-says-no-10

Tinydancer Mon 12-Sept-22 13:39:44

I really don't think it's a good look. There is far too much work to be done here that has been delayed for far too long by the leadership contest.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 12-Sept-22 13:39:50

greenlady102

not true apparently www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/11/liz-truss-not-accompanying-king-charles-on-uk-tour-says-no-10

Yes that is correct.

Truss was strongly advised against her plan to troop around with Charles and in the best tradition of the Tory government

U-Turned?

pinkpeony Mon 12-Sept-22 13:42:14

biglouis Truss should be busy organizing the fuel crisis problem and not getting involved in a side show. Ok there are some ceremonial bits she had to be involved in but her job is to govern the country and not to junket around.

Totally agree. A very bad idea, someone should tell him not to do it!

Treetops05 Mon 12-Sept-22 13:42:19

Wrong, and someone from the Palace should step in and prevent it. Liz Truss trying to 'big up' her totally unimportant role in this angry

Annewilko Mon 12-Sept-22 13:50:02

Grany

Yes I agree not appropriate

I am biased too I want a republic

While we are being told by many people 'now is not the time' surely there is no better time to discuss monarchy and republicanism than with the passing of the longest reigning monarch in British history and in a period of great uncertainty for many people in Britain? Yet this is the one discussion that you will not see or hear in the British media, or in public discussion by politicians, or public debate. Instead, we are treated with the absolute assumption that all of us want the monarchy to continue and that there are absolutely no issues with the hereditary principle, which denies the democratic principle.

#NotMyKing

www.counterfire.org/articles/opinion/23454-the-myths-of-monarchy-and-the-need-for-a-republic

I totally agree with all you say.
Of course this will be used by the establishment to promote the status quo

polly123 Mon 12-Sept-22 13:52:09

No, she should not be going anywhere, she should be applying herself to the current energy crisis etc. Also, I'm sure we don't want to see her weird curtsey again!

MaizieD Mon 12-Sept-22 14:02:10

Your every third post reminder that:

IT'S NOT TRUE, FOLKS

Truss is merely going to the services. She is not touring with the royal party.

Zonne Mon 12-Sept-22 14:27:32

Not any more, anyway.

Theoddbird Mon 12-Sept-22 14:28:34

Totally agree GrannyGravy13....

Nannashirlz Mon 12-Sept-22 14:33:15

I think she got more important things to sort at min than a cuppa and cake with a ride along on the number 7 with the king. She should be sorting out what help she going to give his subjects. lol