Truss going on tour with Charles

Not happening, she's just attending the services of reflection

I would rather have our system than that of America

katy1950

I would rather have our system than that of America

So would I, but Truss is beginning to “politicise” the neutral civil service just as it is in America, as she has so far sacked at least one civil service head and replaced them with Tory cronies.

Whitewavemark2

katy1950

I would rather have our system than that of America

So would I, but Truss is beginning to “politicise” the neutral civil service just as it is in America, as she has so far sacked at least one civil service head and replaced them with Tory cronies.

I don’t know if it’s happened in Scotland and Northern Ireland as well, but she’s also written personally to all Welsh Civil servants seeking their loyalty. She doesn’t even employ them, and there’s quite a backlash against her for not understanding that. She’s heading for a major fall from grace very quickly I suspect.

What a misleading post. Don’t people check their facts before posting?
Those that want a republic, how about President Corbyn , Blair, Johnson or Truss. On the other hand maybe it’s better someone impartial or at least is not allowed to be biased in any way, who was actually groomed for the role might be preferable.

WTF?

So sorry .I meant my response to be about Truss and not to posters on here.

Keffie12

Zonne

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/09/10/king-liz-truss-tour-uk-share-grief-late-queens-death/

Is this appropriate?

I think it makes him look political. I can see some of goodwill people seem to have for him leaching away as a consequence.

But I dislike both the monarchy and Truss, so recognise I’m a tad biased.

I've read it isn't true! That news of it being untrue came from no 10

I think the news that it was happening did too, Keffie. It certainly went in the Newspapers the government normally leaks to.

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katy1950

I would rather have our system than that of America

So would I, but Truss is beginning to “politicise” the neutral civil service just as it is in America, as she has so far sacked at least one civil service head and replaced them with Tory cronies.

Truss has also been accused of politicising senior civil service roles after she sacked Tom Scholar, the top civil servant in the Treasury, on her first day in office. The former cabinet secretary Robin Butler, who served under Tony Blair, John Major and Margaret Thatcher, said politicians are “beginning to forget the constitution” and that “the civil service is Her Majesty’s civil service”.

He told the BBC removing Scholar as an economic crisis approaches would be destabilising, saying: “I think they are behaving improperly towards the civil service. It will weaken them but it will also corrupt our system because one of those great advantages of having an independent, loyal civil service will be compromised.”

(Source: New Statesman Morning Call email)

Exactly

Wrong - it's aligning the monarchy to the Tory Party. Absolutely blatant.

Time for a Republic.

This is not political - we have two major changes, it makes sense for them both to introduce themselves. And God knows we need some encouragement and morale boosting.

sandelf

This is not political - we have two major changes, it makes sense for them both to introduce themselves. And God knows we need some encouragement and morale boosting.

Why on earth should the King, who has lived among us for 70+ years ans whose activities have been subjected to decades of publicity, need to 'introduce himself'. We know who he is and a great deal of what he is like.

The PM is a political appointment, theoretically made by voting into power the party of which they are leader. The monarch is obliged, by our constitution, to appoint them. But the monarch himself must not be associated with any political party.

Besides which, the PM needs no 'introduction'. Anyone who wants to can look up her parliamentary record and she's just spent 6 weeks promoting her rather unpleasant political views in the tory leadership contest.

People do have some weird ideas...

Truss tried to muscle in on today's proceedings in Edinburgh,

Doesn't she just love a photo opportunity?

She was an also-ran and for once upstaged by Nicola Surgeon who as First Minister of Scotland had every right to take a prominent role in the service at St Giles Cathedral.

The attention seeking Truss will get her opportunity in London.

I am just pleased that there is someone with a measure of dignity and honour in Number 10. I am no Tory, but even I am relieved that there has been a change of resident there.
This country is in a mess and needs advice and support from anyone wise enough to help us out of it.

Yes Truss might be a marginal improvement on Johnson, but that's not saying much. Like him she seems to be in the grip of the ERG, and possibly corrupt. She seems to be more hardworking and possibly as a result more competent, but we have to wait to see whether that is good or bad.

I am just pleased that there is someone with a measure of dignity and honour in Number 10.

Oh, is Larry the cat still in residence?

Allsorts

What a misleading post. Don’t people check their facts before posting?
Those that want a republic, how about President Corbyn , Blair, Johnson or Truss. On the other hand maybe it’s better someone impartial or at least is not allowed to be biased in any way, who was actually groomed for the role might be preferable.

Don’t think it was a matter of fact checking - it was actually reported that way.

sandelf

This is not political - we have two major changes, it makes sense for them both to introduce themselves. And God knows we need some encouragement and morale boosting.

It’s actually not happening - misreported apparently. But if it were, it most certainly would be political - the new PM ‘introducing herself’ is a totally different thing to the new King, who is already familiar anyway, touring the country in his new role.

I have read up to and including page 4 and the sheer nastiness of some, not all, left wing members shocks me so soon after the Queen has died.

Why do some of you feel you must constantly show your complete antipathy for the new PM. She is dealing with the cost of living crisis and then the Queen died so suddenly and unexpectedly which most of us find extremely sad and a shock. I wonder if Sir Keir Starmer was PM would that coterie write such nasty and unnecessary posts, Some of you would have to bring your anti style posts whichever candidate had achieved PM status, Can we grieve in peace. Volver recognised it was not the time to talk about Republicanism so why can’t the rest of the anti Tory members here just stop.

Grany

Yes I agree not appropriate

I am biased too I want a republic

While we are being told by many people 'now is not the time' surely there is no better time to discuss monarchy and republicanism than with the passing of the longest reigning monarch in British history and in a period of great uncertainty for many people in Britain? Yet this is the one discussion that you will not see or hear in the British media, or in public discussion by politicians, or public debate. Instead, we are treated with the absolute assumption that all of us want the monarchy to continue and that there are absolutely no issues with the hereditary principle, which denies the democratic principle.

#NotMyKing

www.counterfire.org/articles/opinion/23454-the-myths-of-monarchy-and-the-need-for-a-republic

Well said and my feeling too .

Allsorts

What a misleading post. Don’t people check their facts before posting?
Those that want a republic, how about President Corbyn , Blair, Johnson or Truss. On the other hand maybe it’s better someone impartial or at least is not allowed to be biased in any way, who was actually groomed for the role might be preferable.

Those that like a monarchy, how about King Andrew, King Harry, Queen Meghan, Old Queen Wallis?

Please can we go just one day without such silliness? Please?

Volver recognised it was not the time to talk about Republicanism so why can’t the rest of the anti Tory members here just stop.

Thank you for the recognition of what I said Annie1 but that time is past now. So many people making nasty comments about republicans and basically anybody who isn't prostrate with grief about the Queen's passing. I would not deny how strongly people feel about this but not all of us think its such a big deal, really.

If anyone wants to denigrate republicanism, I'll be waiting here, or any other thread you want to get going on.

Ms Truss's face giving away what she really feels about Sturgeon, in St Giles yesterday.

The Queen when she ascended to the throne did the same thing by visiting Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales as well as Parliament.
This is not unusual and its the perfect time for Liz Truss to go to having just become the Prime Minister.