GreenGran78
O the picture Charles looks as if he'd like to give her a punch on the nose! ???
Would that constitute a political statement ?!
This is what I have just heard said on the BBC 9am news. And yes, they used the word 'told'.
It isn't on their website. It's considerably toned down on the Guardian website. The mirror is even stronger - 'Liz Truss orders King Charles not to attend COP27 climate summit."
What the hell is going on here?
GreenGran78
O the picture Charles looks as if he'd like to give her a punch on the nose! ???
Would that constitute a political statement ?!
Lucca
GreenGran78
O the picture Charles looks as if he'd like to give her a punch on the nose! ???
Would that constitute a political statement ?!
It would certainly make an impression on her and put her in her place, preferably on the floor!!
philoheart
Liz Truss does not have the authority within the constitution to order the King, she may only advise.
How about Jackie Weaver? ?
Gabrielle56
4allweknow
Anothe COP international conference, in Egypt this time. Hardly had time to get over the last one. Wonder what updates on progress will be given and how many trees will need to be olanted to offset the pollution from all the travel. Have those involved not heard of using video conferencing etc.
Exactamondo raymondo!! It just makes me think they're all having another " jolly" where they just happen to have a few speakers banging on about how the planet's changing and we need to get a grip , after which they all beggar off for a booze up before jetting off home again.........
They're not having a jolly. It lasts two weeks and there are about 40,000 delegates.
You really have no idea and in place of any actual knowledge the only thing you can do is mock.
But we all know she's Queen Elizabeth 111, in her mind anyway.
If someone had endlessly pointed their finger at me like she did laura Kunsberg yesterday, I would have swotted it away hard .
Charles should follow his own conscience and take no notice of Queen Liz.
And is the hierarchy of Scotland attending the meeting? Once the Scots get their inderpdndence they can holler all they like. We have a constitutional Monarchy and the Queen was perfection in knowing her role. The only time we knew she did not approve of Scotland becoming independent was when she told them to consider very carefully when they cast their votes. I thought she overstepped the mark then. Be careful,what you wish for. I do not want a Monarch that gets involved in politics. I look forward to the day when Scotland becomes independent and Volver et al are free of us perfidious English people and can bask in their freedom and let us get on with our problems without the advice from our Scottish friends. Whitewater mark is quite capable of being the left’s spokesperson for England.
The few Conservative voters on this board have no defence for the poor standard of the current crop of inept politicians in the government. We are not fools and know that we do not deserve to be in government if this is the best we can do, but the last thing we need is a meddling Monarch and King Charles should have emulated his mother but I am concerned for his future if he thinks he can interfere in government.
Crikey.
(By the way, I'll be "hollering" from now till Kingdom Come. Best get used to it.)
The usual inflammatory media language; people are 'forced' to spend a night in a hotel when travel plans go awry; often someone is 'kicked out' of a situation when they have possibly been invited to leave. The more dramatic the wording the better as far as journalists are concerned. There has probably been a civilised conversation and a mutually agreed outcome.
Glorianny
I've just realised that much as I hate the RF if it came to it I'd back Charles not Truss!!!
As would I.
Charles is a climate hypocrite travels around in jets helecopters train many grand houses.
Pays no inheritance tax.
More than 1,000 laws have been vetted by the Queen or Charles before they were even put in front of parliament.
Under the procedure of Queen’s or King’s consent, ministers alert the monarch to any draft bill that might affect their private wealth. Since their assets span everything from country estates to housing, much of which the public don’t even know about, that grants them a huge amount of power over the very process of drafting the laws that govern the rest of us.
Prefer not to sell your houses, Charles? Then your tenants will just have to tolerate this 21st-century feudalism. Don’t want those pipelines running through your land in Scotland, ma’am? Then you will be exempt from the law covering everyone else – and no one at Holyrood will be told, until they read it in the Guardian.
Her Majesty has £700,000 sterling from the civil list, besides castles, forests, domains, fiefs, tenancies, freeholds, prebendaries, tithes, rent, confiscations, and fines, which bring in over a million sterlin
“The paradise of the rich is made out of the hell of the poor.”
One law for King Charles the billionaire, another for you. Bailiffs for the poorest in society, privileged exemption for the very richest.
A society with all the latest technology and sophistication, yet still in the shadow of medieval feudalism. Except even John of Gaunt couldn’t have counted on the unstinting support of the Daily Mail.
I'm with Volver - largely. This is SUCH a big issue, and yes, we all know that technology has brought us many benefits, but until we go all out and say there has to be a better way there will always be excuses. Yes, Charles should have gone - he's probably confused about the boundaries and trying to find his feet and do as good a job as his mother, but the poor boy has landed with Truss, at his inception. I agree the RF come across as hypocrites, but I wonder how much choice they have, without really taking a tough stance on how those about them organise their transport etc. And in respect of renewables, WHY are new houses STILL BEING BUILT without solar panels?? Climate change is not really being taken seriously, there's too much green-washing and the ideology of this government will only make it worse.
Because she’s going to rip up the net zero, promise; Give the go ahead to more fracking - despite fracking companie saying there is not likely to be viable recovery of gas in the UK,
Lucca
He doesn’t look too thrilled
Gosh! I'd love to know what led up to that photo. The King looks angry and Truss looks patronising.
Wagging her finger during an interview, now touching the King and telling him he can't attend a meeting where other heads of state are attending and he has a long standing interest in, as I said yesterday she needs to learn some manners.
Yes our new king is a climate hypocrite, taking all these helicopter rides, private jets etc, but that does not mean that his views on climate change are wrong.
They are right. It's just that he doesn't see they apply to him and his family.
I believe that he genuinely holds these views on the environment and climate change and if his elevation to the monarchy means he cannot express these views he should delegate that task to the new Prince of Wales.
If the government will not allow him to attend the COP he must ensure a video speech from a member of his family is heard there. This PM has no right to veto that.
Alie2Oxon Thank you for your worthwhile and considered response - I agree that Liz Truss is dangerous and hope that all of us who believe this will do something about it. I have emailed my Tory MP and his assistant replied agreeing with me and pointing out that my MP supported Rishi! We all need to let our elected member know what we think - they do take notice of messages from constituents. Also support worthwhile petitions by signing them, and make donations if you can to e.g. the Good Law Project who are working to use the law to keep the government from breaking the law......again......and feeling appropriate consequences for what they have already done. Law makers should be law keepers! And while we are at it - lets support Proportional Representation - its a far better system to make sure voters views actually make a difference.
Don't know Anniel if you will get your wish as when Nichola Sturgeon arrived at Dunferline today for an event to mark it's status as a city she was booed by the waiting crowds. It was King Charles' first official duty as king and was well attended by the people of the new city who gave him a great welcome.
The waiting crowds of monarchists who support the Union?
Okey doke...
Scottish independence: Record level of support in annual survey
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www.heraldscotland.com/politics/22483799.scottish-independence-record-level-support-annual-survey/
Sure I read was a mutual agreement, not that she told him ... maybe wrong though
Why do you believe everything that is in the media? Yes even the saintly BBC.
Agree wholeheartedly
Constitutional Monarchy is meant to be above politics and Charles promised to keep out of the fray when he succeeded to the throne.
Climate change due to man made intervention might well be observable or measurable albeit highly debated within scientific circles.
The response to climate change is entirely political and the subject of an alarming response on the part of governments, business, the establishment and media to hijack democracy and enforce an authoritarian, top down regime which stifles debate and freedom.
The idea that some wish us to sit in the dark freezing and eating state doled out lentils is terrifying when science, technology, political will and intellectual freedom can fix any problem thrown up by CC.
Climate change isn't highly debated within scientific circles. It was 40 years ago.
Now we know. Don't cling to the idea that it might not be true.
It's true.
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