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Boris Johnson - a warning from history

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MawtheMerrier Fri 21-Oct-22 09:01:43

I was derided just a little when I suggested that there had been a “cunning plan” aka conspiracy to elect the worst possible Tory leader (known as Truss) to be such a disaster that Johnson would look good by comparison and the party faithful would beg him to come back.
Even in these hallowed halls of Gransnet I have seen, but will not name and shame, some who inclined towards this view and lo! it is come to pass that BJ is indeed trying to get 100 MPs to back his candidature.
I have never been more depressed. The inevitable consequence of the last 6 weeks should be a GE but slippery BJ has wriggled out of situations before.
This is not the jolly buffoon with the rumpled hair that Nadine Dorries clearly wishes to ruffle further, the bumbling giant with his shirt needing tucking in.
Don’t be fooled.

winterwhite Fri 21-Oct-22 10:35:00

I wonder how many of the MPs with the pro-BJ inboxes are writing back asking them to explain Why they want him back and What are the benefits of Brexit that they're most pleased about (since that seems to be his greatest 'achievement').

??that the members don't get to vote.

MaizieD Fri 21-Oct-22 11:01:45

International laughing stock.

I thought it was funny, too, but really, is this how we want the UK to be seen?

twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1583389378042552320

Oldbat1 Fri 21-Oct-22 13:20:35

Can’t believe that Johnson is even a possible candidate. He is a liar first and foremost. He is lazy. Lacks morals. Arrogant. Surely the Tories must have some moral compass?

NotSpaghetti Fri 21-Oct-22 13:22:29

Maizie that is a gem...
Pity it's also true.
?

Vintagenonna Fri 21-Oct-22 13:24:05

"They are showing on Twitter how MPs are voting and it would appear that Boris so far has the majority. "

dragonfly46 - you have nailed it! "Twitter".

RichmondPark1 Fri 21-Oct-22 14:32:12

MaizieD That's so funny.

"Boris Johnson had Covid parties that lasted longer than Liz Truss." grin

tickingbird Fri 21-Oct-22 14:37:06

Boris coming back? Oh I do hope so if only to read the outrage on here. I think it’s hilarious.

Casdon Fri 21-Oct-22 14:46:30

tickingbird

Boris coming back? Oh I do hope so if only to read the outrage on here. I think it’s hilarious.

I hope it happens and Boris does win, as it would be an unmitigated disaster for the future of the Tory Party - be careful what you wish for.

However whatever Twitter is saying, there’s a tally being kept on Sky News when MPs declare, and nearly all the serious politicians are backing Sunak, the names are listed. Latest tally is 58 Sunak, 18 Mordaunt, 36 Johnson - not that any of them have declared that they are definitely standing as yet.

Zoejory Fri 21-Oct-22 14:48:29

I think that whoever gets the PM crown knows that the Conservatives will lose the next GE.

Barmeyoldbat Fri 21-Oct-22 14:56:47

Even if Boris gets back because the members voted for him , he won’t have the support of his MPs and many have threatened to leave and become Independent

Ladyleftfieldlover Fri 21-Oct-22 15:00:09

It’s all so depressing. How on earth can anyone with more than one brain cell consider Johnson the perfect choice? As the picture framer (I’m having a picture framed) said this morning, it is so frightening. It is. The thought that blond buffoon, who lies through his teeth and has no morals, may be back in No 10 is a scary thought. And why the heck has he been on holiday? There isn’t a recess. My brother rang from Australia this morning to crow over the fact that they now have a decent Prime Minister.

Chocolatelovinggran Fri 21-Oct-22 15:05:16

Indeed, Barmeyoldbat. Several MPs have said they would resign if BJ returns as leader. I think that the resultant by -elections might cause the Conservative party to endure a number of humiliating defeats, resulting in (at least) a hung parliament. So, as someone who despises the lying toad with no moral compass, I say - bring it on, conservatives, illustrating a fine example of the activity known as turkeys voting for Christmas.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 21-Oct-22 15:08:08

A warning to which I would like to add

Clandestine meeting with KGB officer - never explained

Lying to the Queen

Illegal prorogation

I am sure others can add to the list

vegansrock Fri 21-Oct-22 15:13:39

Remind me of the results of the by elections held when Johnson was pm.

Fleurpepper Fri 21-Oct-22 15:20:59

To know that there are some on GN who would actually want him back- if just beyond belief!

Prentice Fri 21-Oct-22 15:22:01

The old saying that a week in politics is a long time, has certainly proved the case this year.Who would ever have thought that Boris Johnson would be perhaps making a come back? I have seen on tv and heard in the radio, interviews with people on the street, who would really like him to be PM again.Many MP’s too.
Despite the Downing St parties, many think he would be best for the ‘big problems’ facing our country.So yes, it looks as if he is still a popular figure.

Barmeyoldbat Fri 21-Oct-22 16:20:20

Indeed chocolatelovinggran, some good might come if BJ gets in, we would probably have end up with a general election but at what cost to the country. If I could leave the uk and live elsewhere I would be gone like a shot.

Daisymae Fri 21-Oct-22 16:26:51

I posted in another thread this morning that Cummings tweeted in July the exact same thought as the OP.

Zoejory Fri 21-Oct-22 16:30:08

Cummings was detested by many until he started aiming to bring Boris down. Then he was golden boy and everyone believed everything he said!

I've never had any time for him and I don't now

vegansrock Fri 21-Oct-22 16:51:38

A poll on sky says only 27% electorate would be pleased to see Johnson back. It’s the media stirring the pot.

Ladyleftfieldlover Fri 21-Oct-22 16:59:17

Seriously, if I was a lot younger I would leave this country and start again elsewhere. It would be easy if Brexit hadn’t happened, but…

Lucca Fri 21-Oct-22 21:26:46

Ladyleftfieldlover

Seriously, if I was a lot younger I would leave this country and start again elsewhere. It would be easy if Brexit hadn’t happened, but…

Me too.

Lucca Fri 21-Oct-22 21:28:56

For the Boris supporters
twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1583360491032047616?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Callistemon21 Fri 21-Oct-22 21:58:12

Ladyleftfieldlover

Seriously, if I was a lot younger I would leave this country and start again elsewhere. It would be easy if Brexit hadn’t happened, but…

Yes, me too.

nanna8 Fri 21-Oct-22 23:28:24

I wonder how much Liz Truss was paid for her role in this? And where they hid the money.