Petition : *Update the Equality Act to make clear the characteristic “sex” is biological sex*

What on earth do you mean the wrong body. I dont believe in souls, I believe we actually are our bodies.

Galaxy

Being a woman is fighting for others rights and holding them up. Is that what ypu think a woman is? So women who dont do that arent women?

Galaxy look at the context

Women do not have the right to define what a woman is to each other

Which logically concludes that that is what is important to me as a woman

Dont do the twisty thing

Its lovely that is what's important to you VS but it has no impact on whether you are a woman or not. We have to have meaning of words VS or we can't really operate. If we cant say what a woman is then we cant possibly say if transwomen are women or not.

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Galaxy

What on earth do you mean the wrong body. I dont believe in souls, I believe we actually are our bodies.

2 of my children were born with a deformity that is detrimental to them and needed to be changed medically

Gender dysphoria is proven to be best treated medically

If you believe that everything goes perfectly in the development of every human fetus every time you are sadly mistaken

If you believe that your sexual.organs define who you are I'm not sure what to say to you

Galaxy

Its lovely that is what's important to you VS but it has no impact on whether you are a woman or not. We have to have meaning of words VS or we can't really operate. If we cant say what a woman is then we cant possibly say if transwomen are women or not.

Wan is just a word yes

But gender dysphoria is 2 words.

And if I had it I'd be a man and if you tried to tell me I was a woman I'd tell you to go away with your opinions on something you can't empathise with or understand

“Other women thinking they absolutely have a right to dictate what a woman is…..etc”

Umm isn’t this what the trans movement is doing?

Your response to my post you quoted has nothing to with my post VS. I'm not advocating taking away trans rights, no one is. As you've posted "Don't do the twisty thing".

Galaxy

What on earth do you mean the wrong body. I dont believe in souls, I believe we actually are our bodies.

This doesn't answer thr question btw

What trans movement exactly?

VioletSky

Galaxy

What on earth do you mean the wrong body. I dont believe in souls, I believe we actually are our bodies.

2 of my children were born with a deformity that is detrimental to them and needed to be changed medically

Gender dysphoria is proven to be best treated medically

If you believe that everything goes perfectly in the development of every human fetus every time you are sadly mistaken

If you believe that your sexual.organs define who you are I'm not sure what to say to you

“Gender dysphoria is proven to be best treated medically.”

Do you mean changing the body?

That really hasn’t been proved. Ne of those sweeping statements that are just made up rubbish, frankly.

Do I think there might be a cause for gender dysphoria. Yes. Do I actually think knowing the cause will make you a different sex no.

Sure

The views of the medical community and the DSM are made up rubbish

Maybe you need to go have a word with them?

Lathyrus

“Other women thinking they absolutely have a right to dictate what a woman is…..etc”

Umm isn’t this what the trans movement is doing?

Sorry, but no!

Gender dysphoria describes a sense of unease that a person may have because of a mismatch between their biological sex and their gender identity.

If you had it VS you would feel like/think you're a man but you'd still be a woman.

Galaxy

Do I think there might be a cause for gender dysphoria. Yes. Do I actually think knowing the cause will make you a different sex no.

If its proven will you change your mind?

Because I would listen should the results go the other way...

Although conversion therapy doesn't seem to be having a positive outcome

Smileless2012

Gender dysphoria describes a sense of unease that a person may have because of a mismatch between their biological sex and their gender identity.

If you had it VS you would feel like/think you're a man but you'd still be a woman.

We'd be no contact should you say that to me in this hypothetical instance

Well it wouldn't make any difference to me but I don't understand why, when that is the definition of gender dysphoria.

Elucidate for Fleur because that is how it seems to me.

When someone says “Transwomen are women” aren’t they making a statement about what is a woman.

Actually I don’t have a problem with them being called women if they want. I just wanted to highlight the illogicality of condemning “women who want to define what a woman is” whilst supporting others who also define what a woman is.
Either it’s right to do that or it’s not,for everyone.

I do firmly believe though that male and female should be clearly defined, and differentiated in real life whilst females are vulnerable to males.

VioletSky

Sure

The views of the medical community and the DSM are made up rubbish

Maybe you need to go have a word with them?

Obviously you can’t tell the difference between medical opinion and proven medical fact.

I guess that explains the sweeping statements

Sigh

Fearing what one doesn't understand is an evolutional dead end on a lot of topics

Understandable though I suppose

I'd say that they are stating about what a woman is Lathyrus and like you, I don't have a problem with them being called women if that's what they want, as long as I'm not expected to believe that they are women and criticised for saying so.

And the medical community are currently not saying that even social transition is beneficial or harmful, they are saying not enough evidence.

Yup.

So is people consistently putting forward as fact what’s actually only in their own heads😬

Sorry the words for young people should be in there somewhere!