Scotland's Gender Recognition Reform Bill to be debated today 20 Dec & voted on 21 Dec

I found your post deeply patronising. I will dare to say that I am afraid. And you know absolutely nothing about me too. Yes I have dealt with dealers too, luckily on one occasion the door held in time for the police to arrive, am not sure what that proves.

Volver I really don’t give a fig what you think about my grasp of Scottish politics or anything else. I truly don’t understand how anyone could vote for this Bill as it stood, especially when the amendments were all also voted down. The Bill may have been passed but #WomenWontWheest.

volver

Oreo

Well, the silly buggers have won the day in the Scottish Parliament, just hope that the UK government can do their best to stop it becoming law.
Plenty of angry people outside the building who opposed it tho, which is good.That means less votes for the SNP from many women.

Fewer.

That just about sums up your contributions on the subject, volver.

Snide, unnecessary comments about writing style, nitpicking about grammar or the parliamentary process, but nothing about the issues.

Now you are off the fence you say you were on, can you please enlighten me about how this is going to work? What is meant by 'living as a woman'? And who will judge whether the 'womanly' standard has been achieved? Will it be as regressive as many women fear, or have the parameters of what it means to 'live as a woman' been redrawn? Oh, and what about actual women who don't live up to them? Will there be consequences?

I don't expect women to wheest. Just don't expect everybody to agree with you.

NS would have sold her granny to the devil to retain power and to get another referendum on Scottish Independence. She doesn't care one jot for other women because she doesn't see herself ever needing a refuge, or being imprisoned, or not being afforded a level of security or privacy if she needs in-patient hospital care. At last a degree of honesty is being displayed in many situations. The "on the fence" have finally admitted they were never in danger of getting splinters 🤣🤣🤣

Well, I guess @GussieGrips (Elaine Miller) certainly didn’t hold back on how she felt ❤️

twitter.com/belstaffie/status/1606030541618233345?s=61&t=oJG3ROaF9kIZ4I8hGCucRA

Doodledog I totally agree with your last post. At least VioletSky and Glorianny always stick with their convictions. And do you know, I’m very surprised neither of them have contributed to this thread (maybe they have and I’ve missed it/them).

volver

Oreo

Well, the silly buggers have won the day in the Scottish Parliament, just hope that the UK government can do their best to stop it becoming law.
Plenty of angry people outside the building who opposed it tho, which is good.That means less votes for the SNP from many women.

Fewer.

Jumpers some think it means woollen (usually) garments worn for warmth, others think it's a term used for poor souls who are threatening suicide from a bridge or other structure because they're in a very dark place, one has a different definition even when using it in a bridge closure situation, but refuses to elaborate. Then there's always someone who thinks to correct people on the correct usage of less or fewer .......... oh dear.

Did she get her taxi home?

Exposing herself in public. Well, her merkin anyway. Perfectly normal, rational behaviour, when schoolchildren are present.

Everyone deserves a night off grannydarkhair, it is Christmas you know

Rosie51

volver

Oreo

Well, the silly buggers have won the day in the Scottish Parliament, just hope that the UK government can do their best to stop it becoming law.
Plenty of angry people outside the building who opposed it tho, which is good.That means less votes for the SNP from many women.

Fewer.

Jumpers some think it means woollen (usually) garments worn for warmth, others think it's a term used for poor souls who are threatening suicide from a bridge or other structure because they're in a very dark place, one has a different definition even when using it in a bridge closure situation, but refuses to elaborate. Then there's always someone who thinks to correct people on the correct usage of less or fewer .......... oh dear.

Jeezy peeps.

You know how to hold a grudge, I'll give you that Rosie51.

volver

Rosie51

volver

Oreo

Well, the silly buggers have won the day in the Scottish Parliament, just hope that the UK government can do their best to stop it becoming law.
Plenty of angry people outside the building who opposed it tho, which is good.That means less votes for the SNP from many women.

Fewer.

Jumpers some think it means woollen (usually) garments worn for warmth, others think it's a term used for poor souls who are threatening suicide from a bridge or other structure because they're in a very dark place, one has a different definition even when using it in a bridge closure situation, but refuses to elaborate. Then there's always someone who thinks to correct people on the correct usage of less or fewer .......... oh dear.

Jeezy peeps.

You know how to hold a grudge, I'll give you that Rosie51.

Not a grudge, just holding to account somebody who wouldn't admit to an error of judgement/post who is happy to hold others to account. Honesty counts for a great deal.

You should tell that to the protestor who complains about how people will use the new bill to corrupt women and children then exposes herself in the Scottish Parliament.

Volver Eh? Was that last post addressed to me? Sorry I don't follow. If you ever give your alternative definition of "jumpers" (which you steadfastly refused!) or acknowledge it was a regrettable post (as many, many others have done in different circumstances) then I'll let it go. While you try to occupy the high moral ground while never giving your alternative definition of jumpers in the bridge closure situation I shall hold you to account. Not a grudge, just fair play as you often claim in your posts.

One “good news” item I’ve just seen - @Glinner (Graham Linehan) is back on Twitter ❤️

Galaxy They were maybe in the viewing gallery at Holyrood, a wee pre-Christmas trip? 😁

Rosie51

Volver Eh? Was that last post addressed to me? Sorry I don't follow. If you ever give your alternative definition of "jumpers" (which you steadfastly refused!) or acknowledge it was a regrettable post (as many, many others have done in different circumstances) then I'll let it go. While you try to occupy the high moral ground while never giving your alternative definition of jumpers in the bridge closure situation I shall hold you to account. Not a grudge, just fair play as you often claim in your posts.

Drop it lassie. It's not good for your health.

(Sorry, that was probably patronising 😂)

Actually, you don't have to let anything go. Entirely up to you what you want to post about. Just like I can continue to call it a grudge.

volver

Rosie51

Volver Eh? Was that last post addressed to me? Sorry I don't follow. If you ever give your alternative definition of "jumpers" (which you steadfastly refused!) or acknowledge it was a regrettable post (as many, many others have done in different circumstances) then I'll let it go. While you try to occupy the high moral ground while never giving your alternative definition of jumpers in the bridge closure situation I shall hold you to account. Not a grudge, just fair play as you often claim in your posts.

Drop it lassie. It's not good for your health.

(Sorry, that was probably patronising 😂)

Actually, you don't have to let anything go. Entirely up to you what you want to post about. Just like I can continue to call it a grudge.

Call it what you like. I can't be the only one who sees you used the term "jumpers" in a frivolous, uncaring way, and then attempted to deflect saying it didn't mean suicidal people, but has never, ever been able to say what you meant by the term. If you had an alternative definition you'd have shared it. Call it a "grudge" if it feeds your inflated ego, I call it telling the truth. You keep on with your correcting people on the use of less and fewer if it also feeds your inflated ego

Perfectly rational post.

Volver couldn't be bothered to explain beyond her patronising correction.... fewer is the correct usage when the number can be counted, less is for larger amounts where the number cannot be counted. Waitrose have always had their tills marked '8 items or fewer' (this number be incorrect, it's been a while since I've been in Waitrose) whilst more common supermarkets like Tesco, Asda etc usually have tills marked '8 items or less'.

volver

Perfectly rational post.

Why, thank you. I appreciate your appreciation. 😘

Volver completely unable to provide another definition of "jumpers" in relation to bridge closures can keep posting while never disclosing her particular definition, but blaming everybody else. Quite a talent!!

I just came across one of those instances of nothing to see , in one of those places following best international practice and having no problems :

"United States — Olympia, Washington. A level 1 sex offender convicted of the rape of a 12-year-old girl was transferred to a women’s prison, where he groomed and raped a woman who is developmentally disabled and a survivor of sexual abuse"

www.womenarehuman.com/male-rapist-of-12-year-old-girl-groomed-vulnerable-woman-while-in-womens-prison/

Now they’ve helped to get the Bill passed, maybe the Scottish Greens might return to being a party who campaigns on environmental issues. But they’ve lost my vote, almost certainly for ever.

Not with the current leadership, it won't.

Maggie Chapman is obsessed with Gender Recognition for nonbinary people and for children younger than 16.

grannydarkhair

One “good news” item I’ve just seen - @Glinner (Graham Linehan) is back on Twitter ❤️

And Posie Parker.