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Harry has admitted to killing 25 people in Afghanistan.

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Sago Thu 05-Jan-23 16:13:42

Astonishing that he has announced this.
He has now put his wife, children and himself at serious risk not to mention all the other implications.

He is a silly immature and dangerous man.

OnwardandUpward Fri 06-Jan-23 11:27:33

Having a therapist on speed dial who you haven't done the hard work with is like having a car in the garage that you never learned to drive.

Callistemon21 Fri 06-Jan-23 11:34:26

GrannyGravy13

Glorianny

So you all know that he isn't getting help. Amazing the insight some of you have into the private life of H&M whilst apparently swallowing the negative tabloid guff without question.

Why did he detail the numbers? I've no idea. Will it come as a surprise to those who might see him as a terrorist target-well I doubt it. Perhaps he is suffering, perhaps the negative effects of being sent to fight what was ultimately a useless war are still with him and he wants to be honest about what he did.

The perception of the military that you only talk about it if you are pissed and then you need to be told to shut up is so sad.

I know many many serving personnel, they have NEVER EVER spoken of their kills pissed or otherwise.

As for being sent to fight in your words a useless war I politely suggest you show some respect…

I and my family have not got a perception of the military we have past and ongoing experience.

Glorianny has told us before that she is a committed pacifist, GrannyGravy.

Whilst I respect her views and wish all world leaders were pacifists too, I know the reality is different and I have the greatest respect for our armed forces and for those who fight for our freedoms.

I really don't know what Harry was thinking when he said that other than a selling point for his book. It doesn't sound like a thoughtful war memoir, more like a trashy, self-indulgent autobiography.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 06-Jan-23 11:36:46

Glorianny whilst the combined forces of multiple Countries were in Afghanistan, girls returned to school and universities and were able to learn and have a semblance of freedom which we in the West take for granted.

Unfortunately once the USA decided to pull out and announced the date for the withdrawal it gave the Taliban a chance to rebuild and turn back the clock on all that females had gained.

The blame lies squarely with the POTUS who made the decision.

foxie48 Fri 06-Jan-23 11:37:21

I'm really not that interested in the RF and IMO H and M would do better to find other ways of earning money than exposing themselves and their family like this. It does no-one credit. I think his publisher and editor have done very badly by him and I do think he has quite severe MH issues. I generally don't read anything about him but ATM it's difficult not to hear about his revelations. I just find it very sad for the whole RF

GrannyGravy13 Fri 06-Jan-23 11:41:17

Callistemon21 in an ideal world we would/should all be pacifists, unfortunately the bad guys have never received the memo.

Callistemon21 Fri 06-Jan-23 11:44:32

GrannyGravy13

Callistemon21 in an ideal world we would/should all be pacifists, unfortunately the bad guys have never received the memo.

No, and one after another appears.

GladEye Fri 06-Jan-23 11:52:29

"Prince Harry has tarnished his reputation with remarks about killing Taliban fighters in Afghanistan, a former British commander says."

"In his memoir, the Duke of Sussex describes his 25 kills as "chess pieces removed from the board"."

"Ex-army officer colonel Richard Kemp told the BBC Harry's comments were "ill-judged".
He added the remarks may have undermined his security and could provoke people to take revenge."
"I think that sort of comment that doesn't reflect reality, is misleading and potentially valuable to those people who wish the British forces and British government harm, so I think it was an error of judgement."

And should any serving military bear the brunt of that "revenge" HarryThePrat will have their blood on his hands. His desperate need to "put his side of the story out there" has put many others, including his own children at serious risk of retaliation. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the officer's mess today and hear what they have to say about him.

ParlorGames Fri 06-Jan-23 11:54:05

One way to make yourself a target then.

OnwardandUpward Fri 06-Jan-23 12:23:44

I think Harry's former colleagues might be listening to this www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjpF8ukSrvk and thinking Did You Exchange A Walk On Part In The War For A Lead Role In A Cage?

The song is roger waters saying I wish you were here to Syd Barret who became a paranoid schizophrenic from excessive use of LSD the songs about the band missing him and how he slowly began to lose his grip on reality. I guess that anyone who has really known Harry will be sorry for his mental decline and for the fact that he and his brother and father are disconnected.

Of course they will be angry and let down, but ultimately sad.

Caleo Fri 06-Jan-23 12:53:09

Why would Taliban go to all the danger and expense of killing Harry? It's not as if they would make their cause richer , more powerful, or more popular by so doing.

Caleo Fri 06-Jan-23 12:56:00

There are some poorly informed and sentimental members of the public who think that soldiers are not employed to kill .

bevisp1 Fri 06-Jan-23 12:57:23

He needs to be careful, he could be a wanted man, by the Taliban. Harry is such a silly, stupid and idiotic nasty fool, all along I’ve been saying with each and every thing he’s been saying, that surely he’s got to stop, if this incident doesn’t stop him then I don’t know what will. All he is doing is bringing up nonsense about his past, he’s not moving forward at all. Someone please shut this man up…

Blondiescot Fri 06-Jan-23 13:01:17

Caleo

Why would Taliban go to all the danger and expense of killing Harry? It's not as if they would make their cause richer , more powerful, or more popular by so doing.

You obviously don't know much about them, then...

OnwardandUpward Fri 06-Jan-23 13:02:19

Insanity is a terrible thing. Someone should save him from himself. But who?

Joane123 Fri 06-Jan-23 13:07:23

What a dreadful situation this has developed into; it just gets worse.

Harry needs help, he is mentally unstable.

I appreciate all of you with service men/women in your family, thank you to them and god bless them.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 06-Jan-23 13:17:01

According to BBC lunchtime news The Taliban have responded, those that PH killed were not pieces on a chessboard, but people with families waiting for them to come home

Along with someone from the security service saying that PH has now created a real and present danger to himself, his immediate family along with the entire RF.

I do not think it was his intention, but I do not think he had thought these comments through.

Sparklefizz Fri 06-Jan-23 13:39:07

It would seem he doesn't think anything through even though he has access to any type of adviser he would wish to employ.

Did the public need to know that he had some frostbite on the end of his penis? Talk about over-sharing !!

I have just heard an item on Jeremy Vine on Radio 2 with various Army personnel giving their opinions on Harry's admission, and saying that it demeans all serving personnel as well as obviously making himself a target. He has given the Taliban a bonus.

He has used the word "accountable" and asks for an apology from his family but seems completely blind to his own lack of accountability and hypocrisy.

What is the saying? Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

Harry has spoken and removed all doubt.

Allsorts Fri 06-Jan-23 14:27:12

He really does have something to worry about now and it’s not his family. He is a security risk.

Allsorts Fri 06-Jan-23 14:30:07

Sparkelfizz, I don’t read his book and didn’t know about the frostbite, gripping though it is, doesn’t the bit affected drop off? That’s his necklaces dogs bowl and now frost bitten appendage.

kjmpde Fri 06-Jan-23 14:34:15

He should acknowledge his service but to discuss killing is providing himself and his family as a target. The poor man obviously has issues

Sparklefizz Fri 06-Jan-23 14:35:50

Allsorts

Sparkelfizz, I don’t read his book and didn’t know about the frostbite, gripping though it is, doesn’t the bit affected drop off? That’s his necklaces dogs bowl and now frost bitten appendage.

I refuse to read the book but frankly no one needs to, because all these excerpts are on the radio, online and in the papers.

TerriBull Fri 06-Jan-23 14:45:23

GrannyGravy13

According to BBC lunchtime news The Taliban have responded, those that PH killed were not pieces on a chessboard, but people with families waiting for them to come home

Along with someone from the security service saying that PH has now created a real and present danger to himself, his immediate family along with the entire RF.

I do not think it was his intention, but I do not think he had thought these comments through.

I think you are absolutely right GG, in a way I think his ghost writer/publishers/advisers on "Spare", were wrong to allow Harry to be so candid about his time in army and particularly in relation to the very sensitive matter of 25 killings. . They ought to have had the foresight to see a bigger picture, even if Harry can't, although he was very focused and no doubt still is on security. I think the publication of such details are irresponsible all round and potentially dangerous as to where it could lead all in the pursuit of getting top dollar from sales of the book. We only have to cast our minds back to Charlie Hebdo to remember what that triggered.

Anniebach Fri 06-Jan-23 14:52:18

Would he take advice ? Unless from his wife

Washerwoman Fri 06-Jan-23 15:20:13

Not just the Taliban but as likely to be some deranged extremist who either feels angry on Harry's behalf and is a risk to William, Kate and the children and the other senior royals.Or the alternative sees Harry as the enemy.With social media and him drip feeding and constantly seething with resentment publicly and feeding the tabloids even more he has escalated this to ridiculous proportions.Thus increasing security risk all round.
Pop him in a room with Princess Anne for an hour or two I say.Now that would be scary I reckon !

merlotgran Fri 06-Jan-23 15:21:26

I wonder who Meghan will blame when it’s spelled out to her that there is now be a credible risk to her and her children?

Suing the Home office will no longer be worth a hill of beans.