Nicola Bulley 45y Old mum of 2 little girls missing from River Wyre area since last Friday morning at 9:15am walking her dog, Willow.

Germanshepherdsmum

If you ‘harbour’ someone that you know the police are looking for you’re guilty of obstructing their enquiries. I don’t think she’s sought refuge anywhere though. Nor do I believe she’s still alive.
Functioning alcoholics are good at masking their problems and makeup gives a woman extra help in that direction. She was only in her 40s but in time it would have shown in her face.

Helpful to know that. Thank you.
I do know about alcoholism as a sibling had that issue. It was very obvious and wasn’t disguised by make up. She was also mid 40’s.

I just was wondering about womens refuges and how they operated in terms of disclosure.

25Avalon

The police are now being accused of victim blaming. For goodness sake all everyone wants to do is find this poor lady alive and get her home safely to her two children.

The police can’t win can they? First it’s demands for details and loads of press conferences and now they have that it’s like
‘No! TMI’
The police usually don’t reveal all to the public, why should they?
I knew someone who jumped in the river and had depression and alcohol problems, you would never had known it as he held a good job and seemed cheerful.The thing is you can never tell.
The police suspected a river death from the outset as they had prior knowledge.

So now that poor family have had all their personal business splashed across the media for people to pull to pieces.
Spurious concern about the children, whilst publishing even more speculation as the story gets bigger and more detailed.

Yes it is indeed despicable Kalu. BlueBelle According to the article I read yesterday, the diver gave an interview to Kyle who has a show on Talk TV I think it's called. I can't believe someone has given him a show.

Oreo

25Avalon

The police are now being accused of victim blaming. For goodness sake all everyone wants to do is find this poor lady alive and get her home safely to her two children.

The police can’t win can they? First it’s demands for details and loads of press conferences and now they have that it’s like
‘No! TMI’
The police usually don’t reveal all to the public, why should they?
I knew someone who jumped in the river and had depression and alcohol problems, you would never had known it as he held a good job and seemed cheerful.The thing is you can never tell.
The police suspected a river death from the outset as they had prior knowledge.

But them assuming, I find disquieting.
It is like a person who has issues of whatever kind, cannot possibly still have yuk things happen to them like anyone else.

Also, I would have thought there must be reams of protocol they have to abide by in this sort of thing.
So they should well know the boundaries of what they can and cant say.

I hope no one here saw my concern for the two little girls as fake. I really feel for them. I am a child of a parent who disappeared and drowned themselves, although I was a bit older than these children. (Stuff was left on the beach.)
You do get over it, but never really understand it. The difference is, in my case no background information was plastered out there for the entire world to comment on. I am not sure it was the most sensible, nor sensitive, move.

How tragic Joseanne. I’m so very sorry. I can’t believe anyone would have seen your concern for the children as anything but entirely genuine. 💐

Joseanne x

I am still extremely uncomfortable by the general public’s hive mind that we are entitled to know all the details
Does this emanate from the incessant media coverage?

There are two little girls and their Daddy in this maelstrom, surely they have a right to privacy.

Joseanne (((hugs)))

So sorry to hear that Joseanne
What a terrible time that must have been for you.

For once my sympathies are with the police. They have been attacked almost from the beginning for not doing the right thing, or not doing enough. Apparently an abandoned house has been entered on several occasions by amateur "sleuths" looking for Ms Bulley, after the police had searched it three times.

I think people want to help. They may be misguided in how they go about it but they feel all information must be revealed to try to help the search. Now, I’m not saying that’s correct. I think it was possibly unnecessary to reveal her alcohol issues and her privacy should be respected. However, the friends and family have fought tirelessly to ensure that this case is kept in the news, at the top of the news, for weeks. People feel involved. They want a happy outcome. Maybe a step back, a bit of silence is now needed to let the police do the job. I’m sure there’s more we do not yet know.
I sincerely hope she is found.

The information about the alcohol issues were known to the police on day 1. They also were aware that they'd attended the family's property 3 weeks before the disappearance.

I have no idea if the police wanted to keep this information private or had the family and friends requested it not be mentioned.

In my opinion, which of course is all it is, this info should have been given to the public right at the start. First reason to avoid exactly what has happened in the last 24 hours.

Also the search would have been conducted differently and the fact the police knew what they knew explains their attitude which was at odds with the public. But the public didn't have all the information. So by telling the public now opinion shifts and it's all turning so nasty. People seem to forget there's 2 lovely little girls still waiting for their mummy to come home.

I would so love that to happen.

So sorry to read that Joseanne.

Social media can be a source for good but in this case seems to have unleashed armchair detectives, often demanding information and criticising every move the police make.
fancy that - are you suggesting the police haven’t followed their protocols in this case. They will have more information they haven’t shared

Joseanne so sorry

I watched an interview with the rescue expert this morning.
He had nothing but praise for the police. He said the problem was with the comms. He said that if he had had that information from the very beginning the search would have been very different from the beginning.

Why would the search be different? I’m not being very bright here but I don’t understand how the river search would be different or why every possibility was not looked into robustly by the police, if indeed it wasn’t. Maybe it was, we don’t know, but I’m at a loss to understand why things would have been different.

I believe he was called in by the partner and family rather than the police, if reports are true. That being so, it was they who should have told him everything, surely. Did he not liaise with the police himself? Meanwhile, Nicola is still missing poor woman.

I don’t know why the vulnerabilities that have been claimed Nicola has change the protocol for the search for her. She’s missing and she needs to be found.

Joseanne It is a sad fact that although some peoples lives can seem perfect and carefree, they can be going through a living hell inside.

The prime task is to ascertain what happened. No-one's feelings, family or otherwise, and certainly not media-generated 'outrage' should stand in the way. Disclosure of her vulnerabilities may help. An expert searcher has said he would have conducted his search differently had he known.

Joseanne

I am deeply uncomfortable about this information being shared & am really not sure what they hope to achieve by releasing it (other than causing more distress to the family).

I saw that too.
I wonder what he would have done differently?