Lords lay into the governments illegal migration bill

I wonder if Braverman really believes what she is promoting or is she really strengthening her pitch for 'leader of the Conservative party.

Suela Braverman is scheduled for 2 pm today. Maybe wait until the speech has been delivered to pass judgment?

I suspect the lorry drivers and fruit pickers tend not to come on dinghies Grantanow. These are people who would apply for a visa.

Oreo

Whitewavemark2

I see she has been reported by other lawyers to the legal body that oversees lawyers conduct as being racist and xenophobic.

The woman is a menace.

How can it be racist or xenophobic for any country to want to control it’s own migration numbers for the benefit of the country.
Doesn’t make sense.

Quite!

Hot off the press.
www.cityam.com/bravermans-fight-with-the-lords-over-migration-laws-is-unconstitutional/

Primrose see my post above as to the substance of the reports.

An opinion piece Casdon.

But quoting factual information.

Some facts already in the public domain. The rest is opinion.

Germanshepherdsmum

Some facts already in the public domain. The rest is opinion.

The facts stand regardless of the opinion, that is the material point.

It is not racist or xenophobic to wish to decide who comes into your country.
Last year half a million people immigrated into the UK perfectly legally. The route into the UK should be legal. We cannot take thousands of people every year who decide they would like the benefits of living in the UK and simply turn up.

"It is not racist or xenophobic to wish to decide who comes into your country."

Maybe not.

That doesn't mean Suella's not a racist though

V3 blimey !

What?

What is with all the personal attacks on Suella? Why not spend your time coming up with some workable solutions? Sensible ones. The chart would be a start.

What maddyone said is not racist, is probably not racist. (Does that make sense?)

However Suella is responsible for lots of things that aren't racist. That doesn't mean she's not racist

I didn't say she was racist, you decided to interpret what I wrote that way.

V3 you used two negatives which used to be interpreted as a positive… never mind!

maddyone

It is not racist or xenophobic to wish to decide who comes into your country.
Last year half a million people immigrated into the UK perfectly legally. The route into the UK should be legal. We cannot take thousands of people every year who decide they would like the benefits of living in the UK and simply turn up.

We don't.

growstuff
We do.

maddyone

growstuff
We do.

No really, we don't.

Another vote for we don’t, unless you could provide evidence otherwise.

Can anyone explain to me why politicians whose families were welcomed to this country to escape wars etc seem to be the ones most opposed to helping others that are suffering the same fate?

I find that puzzling as well.

The people who think we are just accepting everybody who turns up on our shores...

Do you think it's because they see people in hotels and such, and so think they are living the life of Riley at our expense? They can't see that this is just storage? Can they not see that the government are only enabling that for their own ends?

MayBee70

Can anyone explain to me why politicians whose families were welcomed to this country to escape wars etc seem to be the ones most opposed to helping others that are suffering the same fate?

Show how this is true?
I don’t think their families came over on dinghies and paid people smugglers thousands of pounds.