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Breaking: H & M in Car Chase

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FannyCornforth Wed 17-May-23 15:18:38

Just now

aggie Thu 18-May-23 09:42:35

Oh , a good way to avoid publicity is to dress up , travel in a smoked windows car with security, to an award ceremony and slip out the front door of the venue ?
But only if you have already said you want out of the limelight ?

volver3 Thu 18-May-23 09:44:56

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Foxygloves Thu 18-May-23 09:53:38

Unnecessary

tickingbird Thu 18-May-23 09:55:57

How would you feel if a bloke in casual clothes turned up outside your car in the streets of NY and started filming you?

If I was a celebrity making millions from selling out my family and publicising my mental health struggles, plus writing about how many Taliban I’d killed, not to mention my frozen todger and exploits in fields behind pubs with older women, quite honestly, I’d expect it.

They had just attended an awards event for Meghan’s contribution to women or something. Paps were everywhere and there was nothing catastrophic happening. They were followed - paps do that. Far worse in the US than here. Paps aren’t looking to murder to people; they just want pictures. Traffic is Manhattan is very slow moving. Harry can dramatise this non event as much as he likes but nobody appears to be buying it from what I’ve seen on different news outlets.

FannyCornforth Thu 18-May-23 10:10:06

Tickingbird ‘older woman’!
Sacha Walpole is only just two years older than Harry!
Typical of his exaggeration for effect.
People were speculating that it was Liz Hurley…

Smileless2012 Thu 18-May-23 10:44:29

I just don't understand why they and/or their spokesperson does this. If it is a gross exaggeration and it certainly looks that way, it will be shown to be and once again their credibility will be called into question.

eazybee Thu 18-May-23 10:49:46

After the way H and M have behaved since their marriage and the number of 'mistruths' that have been exposed I now doubt everything they say, particularly as this latest story coincides with H's court case.

Unfortunately for them it may well turn out to be a case of The Boy who cried Wolf and something serious will happen to them, because of their relentless pursuit of fame and money.

pascal30 Thu 18-May-23 11:05:04

It doesn't surprise me that the royal family hasn't contacted them, I imagine they're mightily fed up with these continuing stunts..

Cold Thu 18-May-23 11:09:07

Glorianny

Amazing how many inaccuracies are being posted on this thread. So let's get things clear. The chase took place before the taxi driver was involved. High speed was not mentioned until the Mayor of New York brought it in. M&H had to transfer from their limo to a taxi in order to shake off the paps. One of the agencies who buy photos from the paps claims the paps were not dangerous In those famous words "Well they would wouldn't they".
They were certainly pursued and they had to use a taxi to escape. But of course they deserve all they get don't they.
Of course the increased activity of the paps might be related to the fact that H&M have been doing exactly what GN demanded, staying out of the news, which only makes photos of them more valuable. Can't win can they?

But this is the taxi that the paps photographed them in because the driver has given interviews standing next to his cab and it is the same taxi number

But it still makes absolutely no sense why they would transfer from a secure vehicle in a convoy to hail an insecure taxi? Why not wear seat belts? Why not enter/leave through a back or underground carpark entrance? Why walk in and out from the street? ... all of these are very basic body guarding issues

Surely most reliable security companies would have a VIP car service on speed dial and arrange to meet up to transfer vehicles ... or use a nearby hotel by going in the front door and out the back

It was these sort of cat and mouse games were what led to the death of Diana when she left a secure suite at the Ritz and called back an offduty (drunk) driver.

I've read that NYPD is requesting Harry's mobile phone footage so hopefully this will give more clarity

NotSpaghetti Thu 18-May-23 11:10:25

This is the taxi-driver talking - short video:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65629160

NanaDana Thu 18-May-23 11:14:59

I'm really struggling with the idea that H&M moved to the States to provide a safer and more private environment for their family. Did none of their so-called "advisors" point out that the paparazzi there make ours in the U.K. look like cuddly pussycats, and that as regards safety, there were 130 mass shootings and over 10,000 deaths by shooting there in the first three months of 2023 alone? And if they really seek privacy, how does that compute with their contract with Netflix, with Harry's "reveal all" book, and with their constant obsession with self-publicity, which just goes on and on and on? Who are they kidding, apart from themselves? And as for the Royals "not getting in touch" with them after this latest incident... would you, after what the wider family continues to be subjected to? Self delusion of gargantuan proportions, and no sign of it stopping.

Maggiemaybe Thu 18-May-23 11:22:29

The situation must have been alarming for them, and Harry’s would be a trauma response, in view of the way his mother died. There’s no need for this sort of intrusive behaviour and nobody deserves to be subjected to it. But there is a wide gulf between the way the couple’s spokesperson described the incident, and how the NYPD, Mayor etc saw it.

Catastrophising and exaggerating just make the people doing it look foolish. We don’t actually know whether the original statement came directly from the couple, but it’s laid them wide open to the ridicule they’re now being subjected to. South Park are going to have a field day.

Though there are now frantic tweeters suggesting the royal family was out to kill them. You couldn’t make it up.

Daddima Thu 18-May-23 11:59:54

So, they were at a public event, with plenty of photo opportunities, though I’m sure the paparazzi would still look for something different. I’m also sure the use of ‘catastrophic’ would have been meant to apply to members of the public injured by any reckless driving . They should also have known that by having their spokesman inform Reuters that the media would do things like reporting ‘crash’ instead of ‘chase’, as they already ( quite rightly) have a low opinion of the British media.
So, what is so ‘terrifying’ about getting your picture taken? By all accounts it was not a Hollywood style car chase, and I’m sure their security people could have come up with a plan to get them to their friends’ home undetected.

Theexwife Thu 18-May-23 12:35:45

There are bigger celebrities than those two in Manhattan that manage to travel around without upset. Maybe they have the wrong security people.

MerylStreep Thu 18-May-23 13:27:25

how would you feel if a bloke in casual clothes turned up outside your car in the streets of NewYork and started filming you
If it was me I’d be flattered. But it’s Meghan. That’s her oxygen.
Action, camera, smile 😄

fancythat Thu 18-May-23 13:39:49

Prince Harry has a deep seated problem with the press, why doesn’t he go out of his way to avoid them?

Exactly.
They could have moved to the US, and lived a quiet life somewhere.

Riverwalk Thu 18-May-23 14:00:03

Like it or not the paparazzi will follow celebrities - if Harry didn't want the address of his friend's residence to be known then they should have stayed in a hotel.

Going from their SUV to a taxi in an attempt to shake-off the press was a silly decision by the security team, evidenced by the return to the SUV.

All a bit of a fiasco - which could have turned disastrous given they had no idea how responsible a driver the cabbie was. A good job he wasn't the type to be up for a chase.

Callistemon21 Thu 18-May-23 15:04:01

MerylStreep

^how would you feel if a bloke in casual clothes turned up outside your car in the streets of NewYork and started filming you^
If it was me I’d be flattered. But it’s Meghan. That’s her oxygen.
Action, camera, smile 😄

I'd ask him if he needed to go to Specsavers 😁

Callistemon21 Thu 18-May-23 15:07:46

maddyone

I’d think you must be mad. Why would you want to start filming an old granny?
Because I’m not even a quarter as pretty as Meghan.

But are you a Woman of Vision, maddyone
They might if you'd just won an award 🏅

Callistemon21 Thu 18-May-23 15:19:51

nanna8

If you are travelling at approximately 20-25 k per hour you maybe don’t actually need seatbelts I suppose. It must have been one of those freaky no traffic days in New York.

Yes, you do. You don't know what other drivers may do and Harry wasn't even driving, he was a passenger too.

Not sure about the law in all the USA but certainly it is compulsory in NY.

If someone's parents had been killed in a car crash because she wasn't wearing a seatbelt then I thought fastening your seatbelt would have been the first thing you would do and you'd ensure your loved ones do the same.

Their security escorts and the police could have called a halt to this "chase" at any time.

It just doesn't add up.

NotSpaghetti Thu 18-May-23 15:37:14

The use of seatbelts does seem to be low down on the list of safety measures for "important" people...
I don't understand it at all.

Vanillasky Thu 18-May-23 15:41:00

The entire Woman of Whatever message disappears when you and your husband create a drama about nothing.
They need help from better advisors.

Juliet27 Thu 18-May-23 15:44:21

🤣🤣 Meryl

Juliet27 Thu 18-May-23 15:45:15

Sorry that should be to Callistemon

eazybee Thu 18-May-23 15:45:25

Why do they need advisors anyway?