Has the penny dropped (as fast as the Pound)- Brexit is a disaster

And I probably have another question .To fp and anyone else who wants to answer

What do you think the percentage chances are, of the Uk returning to the EU?

Not sure. It will happen, in one form or another. It will take time, and we will never have the same opt outs and favourable conditions we had before. Not able to give % at this stage.

You obviously have not seen the most recent and mutliple polls, that show that about 30% of the population would vote to leave currently. So there is the 70% to 'feel sorry for', mainly our ACs who are currently paying the price, and our GCs who will continue to pay for probably the rest of their life Yes, I do feel sorry for them.

I find it ironic that someone who chooses to live in a European Country which is not a member of the EU is so fixated on the fact that the U.K. has now joined her homeland in not being in the EU.

You actually have no idea of the consequences of a return to the EU. I say this as a remainer, dad from the EU etc etc. If for example it was a very obvious reversal of the decision, I think the consequences could be very serious.

Zero. I note that Poland and Hungary are eying leaving the EU

I voted to remain but I accept what happened and get on with my life without ever thinking about Brexit. No need to feel sorry for me. And my AC is doing very well, as will his child. No need to feel sorry for them either. Please get over it! You don’t even live in the UK or the EU.

I agree Galaxy. Although I voted to remain, I would not vote to rejoin. We have moved on and would have very little negotiating power.

Germanshepherdsmum

I voted to remain but I accept what happened and get on with my life without ever thinking about Brexit. No need to feel sorry for me. And my AC is doing very well, as will his child. No need to feel sorry for them either. Please get over it! You don’t even live in the UK or the EU.

Agreed. And don't discount Covid, war in Ukraine, global recession - as part to present day issues.

They are all down to Brexit Norah!

It's not just that I worry about. There are consequences of ignoring the vote in terms of society's stability and respect of democracy. I am not expressing that well!

What is it about your GC's future that particularly concerns you Fleurpepper? Assuming they are UK students.
My GGs are in primary school, so a bit young to be making plans, but I know from my tutoring and from my GodD that universities like Durham and Exeter still participate in the Erasmus scheme and maintain links with hundreds of partner universities across Europe.

Germanshepherdsmum

They are all down to Brexit Norah!

You can be so disingenuous- you know perfectly well that they are not. But you are also fully aware, I am absolutely sure, that Brexit has made it much worse for the UK, in 100s of sectors. Same for inflation. Happening all over Europe too, but much less, and of course they are able to supply each other.

But WHY do you keep banging on about it?

Btw I’m not sure we have ‘100s of sectors’.

Joseann- mine are about to go to Uni- and to study subjects which could be linked to amazing pan-European projects, with funding- which they UK students will no longuer have access to. Links are on thing- proper on par cooperation with EU funding, is another.

Would be interested in any links re full participation on Erasmus scheme, please.

Germanshepherdsmum

But WHY do you keep banging on about it?

Because it is massively important, and because the demise of Johnson, the ERG, Farage, and co, a GE next year (and perhaps, oh dear Brenda) a snap election even sooner if Sunak is brought down... means changes are afoot, big changes.

But piling on FP and being very rude is of course great diversion tactics.

The end of the world is nigh!

GrannyGravy13

I find it ironic that someone who chooses to live in a European Country which is not a member of the EU is so fixated on the fact that the U.K. has now joined her homeland in not being in the EU.

🤔 mmm, strange that, isn’t it.

Fleurpepper

Germanshepherdsmum

But WHY do you keep banging on about it?

Because it is massively important, and because the demise of Johnson, the ERG, Farage, and co, a GE next year (and perhaps, oh dear Brenda) a snap election even sooner if Sunak is brought down... means changes are afoot, big changes.

But piling on FP and being very rude is of course great diversion tactics.

What do you think Starmer could do/wants to do, re the EU and Brexit, if he has a chance to?

I'm no expert in all degree courses offered at different unis, Fleurpepper sorry, most of the students I know are studying European languages and have been successful in finding placements abroad through the Erasmus scheme. Maybe some other GNs with DGC of that age can answer your question.
From what I can gather, a lot of UK unis have been very proactive in fighting for their students to still benefit fully. It's a pain, but not a complete disaster.

fancythat I'm assuming you're new to this. FP under various guises has perseverated and catastrophised on this topic for years. No matter what evidence to the contrary has been presented on and on she goes from the security of a non EU country. Makes you wonder.

MerylStreep

GrannyGravy13

I find it ironic that someone who chooses to live in a European Country which is not a member of the EU is so fixated on the fact that the U.K. has now joined her homeland in not being in the EU.

🤔 mmm, strange that, isn’t it.

Not so strange at all. Switzerland has managed to negotiate very close deals, including most of the advantages of the EU, without being fully part of it. And Schengen. But with Freedom of Movement has a non negotiable condition.

A very mixed country too, linguistically, geographically and culturally too. The French speaking side has always wanted to be fully part of Europe, the German majority did not. We can be very grateful for Brexit and the ensuing mess and very negative consequences, as it has totally shut down those in the German part that wanted to pull out of EU agreements and Schengen. But this thread is not about Switzerland, nor any British people who have made the choice to move abroad. So why do you 'keep banging about it' (so rude... but ...).

Strange? Why strange? If you are totally dependent on the UK for your finances, and all your ACs and GCs are there, take the hit- whx would it be strange to be concerned?

Another gorgeous day - so will leave you to it.

My pensions certainly have not 'taken a hit' 10.1% increase this year. Of course I'm a UK resident, tax payer and voter...

Aveline

My pensions certainly have not 'taken a hit' 10.1% increase this year. Of course I'm a UK resident, tax payer and voter...

I am due to get my pension this year, and was pleasantly surprised with the amount due.