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Has the penny dropped (as fast as the Pound)- Brexit is a disaster

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Fleurpepper Sat 10-Jun-23 16:56:06

Is there anyone here on GN still prepared to stand and say that it is not- and give evidence to the effect?

kittylester Sun 11-Jun-23 20:24:46

But, we are where Weare for goodness sake. No amount of breastfeeding will change it. So, we should move on with a positive attitude rather that bewailing what has happened.

BTW, I voted remain for the avoidance of doubt.

Casdon Sun 11-Jun-23 20:27:43

kittylester 😂 read your response, I think you’ve been an autocorrect victim!

CheersMeDears Sun 11-Jun-23 20:32:46

Oh we have asked, many of us, time and time again- for a list of benefits. But all we get is mockery and insults, often very personal and truly nasty.

Then why do you keep asking exactly the same questions, getting exactly the same responses and reactions and then ask again? It's like groundhog day FP! You're not going to get the responses or reactions you so desperately seem to need so, for your own well being, maybe it's time to change the record now.

DaisyAnneReturns Sun 11-Jun-23 20:34:30

MayBee70

DaisyAnneReturns

Whitewavemark2

Brexit was and never will be a one day event. It’s ramifications are felt every day.

Indeed the changes we made are. But hammering on about a passed vote nicknamed Brexit rather than how we are governed today and tomorrow will not make anything any better.

What do you want to do? Live in the past or move forward to the future ?

We haven’t been able to move forward for the past seven years, though, because it took years to get Brexit done: and it still isn’t done. Rees Mogg didn’t point out in the run up to the referendum that it would take 50 years to reap the benefits. Mind you it only took him 7 years to reap his benefit…being honoured by Johnson for service to the country hmm

Brexit - Britain's Exit - is done. That was what we were asked to vote on. Nothing more, nothing less. The use of the word is done simply to continue the culture war created to get the vote. So much is smoke and mirrors.

How the country is governed cannot be all about looking back. Whatever you think isn't yet done was not something we voted on. In or out was the only vote. After that, how we deal with it is up to whoever is democratically voted into government. Governments will always now be dealing with the outcome of that vote. It is and will be part and parcel of ongoing governance not separately "Brexit".

Joseann Sun 11-Jun-23 20:40:48

And none of my posts criticise the country, au contraire but you HAVE called the UK "The Laughing Stock" Fleurpepper .

Foxygloves Sun 11-Jun-23 20:45:51

Casdon

kittylester 😂 read your response, I think you’ve been an autocorrect victim!

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

DaisyAnneReturns Sun 11-Jun-23 20:51:56

Dickens

DaisyAnneReturns

Whitewavemark2

Brexit was and never will be a one day event. It’s ramifications are felt every day.

Indeed the changes we made are. But hammering on about a passed vote nicknamed Brexit rather than how we are governed today and tomorrow will not make anything any better.

What do you want to do? Live in the past or move forward to the future ?

DaisyAnneReturns - where from DaisyAnne? smile

If we talk about how we are governed today we will have to reference the current government and some of its more obvious, erm, "mis-steps" which, on here, is quite frequently regarded as 'Tory-bashing'.

Referring back to Brexit is not necessarily living in the past - it was, basically, the moment from which the whole sorry saga started. And deserves to be examined. Because a lot of people have been disappointed by what they were promised and what the reality of those promises turned into.

I haven't posted for ages Dickens and it was just to let everyone know that it was me. The short version is that I killed my computer and in the process lost my password so I had to change my name but I didn't want it to be a name that wasn't recognizable. I do realise in that in the process I've created the name of what sounds like a Famous Five book title. It was really just simply a way to say hi.

Foxygloves Sun 11-Jun-23 20:56:17

I am British and have been for 50 years. So not only is discriminating on grounds of nationality is illegal in British Law, discriminating on false grounds and assumptions, against another British citizen, even more so

I don’t think anybody is discriminating against anybody on grounds of age, sex, nationality or anything.
Just boredom with the Groundhog Day of the same old, same old.
Like others I voted Remain and yes, many things have turned out to be shambolic, but wailing, and gnashing our teeth or rending our clothes achieves nothing. Should we start similar threads about the effects of Covid? Of Ukraine? These are much more immediate and real in the case of Russia’s nuclear threats along with cutting off our gas supplies, much more worrying.
And frankly I don’t give a monkey’s what somebody’s “young friends” “expat website friends” “ gatherings of all the nations” think. Those are third hand opinions and don’t impressa me much.
However yes, it seems to me as well as to others that there is a certain Schadenfreude in relaying these judgements.

Wheniwasyourage Sun 11-Jun-23 20:56:42

I am annoyed about the nasty attacks on the OP and others who support her We are all entitled to our opinion about Brexit - mine is the same as those who regard it as a dreadful self-inflicted stupidity based on lies - but there is no excuse for some of the rude comments on this thread.

kittylester Sun 11-Jun-23 20:58:04

Casdon

kittylester 😂 read your response, I think you’ve been an autocorrect victim!

Blooming heck!!

Poppyred Sun 11-Jun-23 21:14:45

Fleurpepper

Poppyred

You always cause trouble Fleurpepper no matter what you call yourself, and then pretend to be innocent. How many times have you been banned from this site?

Come on, don’t be shy, tell us?

Millions of people Do Not Agree with your views…….get over it!

Reported as personal attack irrelevant to the thread. What was your previous name.

I am British and have been for 50 years. So not only is discriminating on grounds of nationality is illegal in British Law, discriminating on false grounds and assumptions, against another British citizen, even more so.

I’ve always been Poppyred I don’t cause trouble…..

Galaxy Sun 11-Jun-23 21:15:03

I will feel quite discriminated against if anyone expects me to start breastfeeding again.

CheersMeDears Sun 11-Jun-23 21:20:54

I agree with you WhenIwasyourage, attacks are unpleasant aren't they. However, if one has a "magical life" with such an array of social events, with so many international young friends, why is one not finding a more convivial topic of conversation to have with them? Banging on about brexit must be as boring for them as it is for us. I'm sure they'd appreciate the change of topic as much as we would.

Fleurpepper Sun 11-Jun-23 21:24:55

I'd say you are causing trouble, in the most appalling personal attacks, poppyred.

''I don’t think anybody is discriminating against anybody on grounds of age, sex, nationality or anything.''

yes, some are, again and again, by stating or intimating, that the UK is not my country. It is, and has been for 53 years, and officially for over 50. This is discriminatory, and illegal in British Law.

Breastbeating did you mean to say? As said, Johnson's demise is a game changer, and Brexit has been proved, beyond a shadow of doubt. to have NOT been won democratically, and to have been a disaster. So yes, it will be mentionned again, and again some more, because of this. Not a single benefit so far, and people now do know, that project fear was project reality, and that it is an unmitigated disaster for this country, which is mine, as well as yours.

CheersMeDears Sun 11-Jun-23 21:44:51

Yes dear, whatever you say. smile

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 11-Jun-23 21:45:39

Hear, ,hear Foxy and Cheers,

Dinahmo Sun 11-Jun-23 21:58:06

Smileless2012

That wasn't what my post was about Whitewavemark. I agree that if there were another referendum and the majority voted for a reversal of Brexit that would be democratic, so why am I constantly seeing references to the undemocratic vote by a majority in favour of Brexit?

Oreosmile.

(a) it was a tiny majority as a proportion of he total population. It should never have been allowed.

(b) We were lied to by the Leavers and if you don't accept that, please do some research.

Foxygloves Sun 11-Jun-23 21:58:48

yes, some are, again and again, by stating or intimating, that the UK is not my country. It is, and has been for 53 years, and officially for over 50. This is discriminatory, and illegal in British Law
Can you quote one post from the current thread which does this? .

Dinahmo Sun 11-Jun-23 22:00:21

Germanshepherdsmum

The trouble is, Wyllow, she keeps bringing up Brexit with depressing regularity. The vain hope is always that the drum will stop being banged and she will move on.

Does it matter. You can ignore the thread!

Dinahmo Sun 11-Jun-23 22:03:18

DaisyAnneReturns

Whitewavemark2

Brexit was and never will be a one day event. It’s ramifications are felt every day.

Indeed the changes we made are. But hammering on about a passed vote nicknamed Brexit rather than how we are governed today and tomorrow will not make anything any better.

What do you want to do? Live in the past or move forward to the future ?

There is plenty of comment about the current situtation elsewhere. Perhaps you've missed it?

Dinahmo Sun 11-Jun-23 22:07:27

Poppyred

You always cause trouble Fleurpepper no matter what you call yourself, and then pretend to be innocent. How many times have you been banned from this site?

Come on, don’t be shy, tell us?

Millions of people Do Not Agree with your views…….get over it!

U think you'll find that the majority are now opposed to Brexit.

Dinahmo Sun 11-Jun-23 22:16:59

One reason for Brexit and probably the most important for the likes of Mogg & Co.

Taxation. The EU had announced that they were bringing in laws to stop the use of off shore companies etc etc.
wef 1 January 2021. The transition period ended on 31 December 2020.

Callistemon21 Sun 11-Jun-23 22:18:25

The short version is that I killed my computer
That made me laugh, wondering what the computer did to deserve that!

As well as kittylester's post!

It's done, no bewailing, gnashing of teeth, clutching of pearls will change that and we have to move on, not dwell in the past.
Nor any breastbeating!

Often events don't go the way we hope they will, both in our own lives and for countries too. We have to pick ourselves up, start again, perhaps in another direction, and work towards a positive outcome.

MerylStreep Sun 11-Jun-23 22:18:58

FleurPepper
You say that the uk is officially your home. Does that mean that Switzerland isn’t.

Dinahmo Sun 11-Jun-23 22:21:33

Perhaps someone/anyone could kindly explain why they come on a thread like this and then moan about it? I often look at some of the other threads, think that the subject is of no interest to me and so I pass on. I don't bother to read them and nor do I look and ask why the OP is bothering.