The Supreme Court has ruled the Rwanda deportations are illegal

Rwanda must be laughing all the way to their Banks! We have paid them MILLIONS AND MILLIONS.

What did I hear at lunchtime Italy are doing a deal with Albania to take loads of their unwanted migrants?

sharon103

growstuff

sharon103

JenniferEccles

Sorry but no they are not desperate, not in the way you mean LauraNorderr

Desperate to get here yes, as we are a soft touch, but as we all know, before they arrive here they have travelled through several perfectly safe European countries.

I agree with all of your posts JenniferEccles.
A very close relative works in a detention centre.
Some on here would have a different opinion if they knew what I know. Obviously I can't say.
They have a better going on than we do. No wait to see a doctor, hospital or dentist.
No wonder people get angry.

Obviously you can't say!

Do you work for MI6?

Cut the sarcasm. Of course I can't say on an open forum

So why did you even say you knew, if you can't say?

Plus accommodation on a barge moored in beautiful Dorset, free to come and go as they please with free transport laid on.
There are medical facilities on board, plus a gym, yet still some have the brass neck to complain.

The list goes on and on.

Of course this is all costing the poor tax payer, although less, we are told, than the 8 million pounds PER DAY it costs to house them in hotels.

She has said enough to give us a flavour of things without details which would implicate her relative.

Germanshepherdsmum

She has said enough to give us a flavour of things without details which would implicate her relative.

But how on earth is anybody to know how accurate they are?

I live near Wethersfield and the kind of picture of detention centres does not coincide with what people who have had access to the centre are saying.

PS. My daughter works for the National Crime Agency, but I'm not going to dangle any tasty titbits of gossip on GN!

I expect the centres differ growstuff. Life didn’t look bad on the barge for instance, apart from legionnaires! My son lives very close to Wethersfield. I think work there is ongoing as the air base had been abandoned with the intention of redevelopment and they don’t yet know if the council’s challenge will succeed (which I hope it does - the proposal has killed the local property market).

But, but, but -

everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that if this government had been on top of the issue, - and processed the application in an efficient and professional manner - and remember it only increased so much as a result of Brexit - then the whole ridiculous issue with accommodation apart from a relatively low level of applicants waiting for processing, this conversation should never be taking place.

It is this governments utter incompetence that has cost so much.

I think sharing the positive situations at the detention centre you have experience of would be a good thing sharon 103?

It’s not subject to the official secrets act is it?

JenniferEccles is right, they have come through safe countries.

All asylum seekers whose claims were accepted would still need accommodation wwm. And if they couldn’t earn enough to pay for food and accommodation would they not be seeking benefits?

43 businesses near me have signed up to ask the ban on asylum seekers working be lifted. They would all be willing to employ them. If they were working they couldn't possibly cost as much as they do now. They would pay taxes and contribute to the local economy.
Now the Rwanda farce has been knocked on the head let's have a proper policy which permits them to work, processes applications quickly and allows those who are genuine asylum seekers to start their new lives here, instead of forcing them to live lives of uncertainty.

So contrary to the SC and the rule of law. This ghastly government is going to rule Rwanda is a safe country. So they are intending to ignore, the torture, the killings and transportation of their asylum seekers back to their home country.

The Rwanda plan is still on.
RS on tv now saying just that.There will be a treaty ready to go through Parliament to show Rwanda is safe for the immigrants, and if all else fails he wouldn’t allow the court in Strasbourg to scupper it.

He has no mandate to withdraw from the ECHR.

He will try very hard to achieve this before an election is called I bet.
Any party which can stop the boats will do well in the election, like it or not.

But it won't stop the boats!

I don’t think it will make much difference at all Oreo whether the boats are stopped or not. It’s not a major priority for most people. That’s not to say they don’t care about it, it’s just not anywhere near the top of their concerns.

He is talking to his right wing? This is never going to get off the ground.

JenniferEccles

Plus accommodation on a barge moored in beautiful Dorset, free to come and go as they please with free transport laid on.
There are medical facilities on board, plus a gym, yet still some have the brass neck to complain.

The list goes on and on.

Of course this is all costing the poor tax payer, although less, we are told, than the 8 million pounds PER DAY it costs to house them in hotels.

Some of that money has been diverted from the overseas aid budget. But I assume you don’t agree with that either.

I’m puzzled as to how the eu is funding UN camps in Rwanda and Niger.
These are people who have made it to Libya where they were kept in horrendous conditions paid for by the eu.
The eu paid the Libyan coast guard to turn back the boats heading for Europe.

www.unhcr.org/rw/who-we-help/evacuees-from-libya-emergency-transit-mechanism-centre

I should have said, any party attempting to stop the boats by any means necessary will do well in the election.
It depends where you live and the circles you move in if the illegal immigrant crisis bothers you or not or where it is in your priorities.It’s easy to assume that if you aren’t fussed yourself then others won’t be.
The main thing in my view is to get applications assessed really quickly.

people held in detention centres are often locked up for thirteen hours a day

I don’t think asylum seekers are locked up anywhere. That would be illegal. Why do you think they’re locked up foxie? The asylum seekers near us live in a hotel and we see them when we go to walk along the seafront. They’re walking on the seafront too, or sitting in the garden of the hotel.

GrannyGravy13

Let’s hope that the Government has a Plan B, as the current situation is untenable.

It is not fair on the refugees/migrants, it is not fair on the communities who have a sudden influx of young men (with nothing to occupy them) nor is it sustainable for the public purse.

What we need is a Labour government. I’m sure they’ve got a solution to stopping the influx of young men, or all those risking their lives in the little boats and paying a fortune to do so, which leaves them penniless when they get here.

maddyone

^people held in detention centres are often locked up for thirteen hours a day^

I don’t think asylum seekers are locked up anywhere. That would be illegal. Why do you think they’re locked up foxie? The asylum seekers near us live in a hotel and we see them when we go to walk along the seafront. They’re walking on the seafront too, or sitting in the garden of the hotel.

That’s unless you’re unfortunate enough to end up in detention centre funded by the eu.

maddyone

^people held in detention centres are often locked up for thirteen hours a day^

I don’t think asylum seekers are locked up anywhere. That would be illegal. Why do you think they’re locked up foxie? The asylum seekers near us live in a hotel and we see them when we go to walk along the seafront. They’re walking on the seafront too, or sitting in the garden of the hotel.

They won't be in a Detention Centre. Basically they are like prisons, they are not free to leave and can be locked in their rooms. They are generally used prior to deportation but about 50% of people detained are eventually released but they don't know how long they will be detained and some are held for a long time. There's been over 40 deaths in detention centres from a variety of causes but suicide by hanging is not that uncommon.