What will save the Tory party?

M0nica

GrannyGrunter For every voter farage might attract many many more would defect.

Including many of the Conservative MPs remaining after the next election.

MayBee70

BlueBelle

If Braverman ever heads this country I m off nicenanny3 and I don’t think I d be travelling alone
You are welcome to this two faced cruel woman

Seconded. I said something similar on another thread and am still pondering on where on earth I could go to, though. Methinks I would have to, in a cowardly way, shut myself away from news and social media because I’m getting too old to fight such things.

What always strikes me about seemingly uncaring, compassionless people like Braverman is that this aspect of her character is bound to extend further, ultimately, than the chosen target of the day.

If she were to become PM, I think immigrants-in-boats wouldn't be her only bugbear.

She's on record saying her priorities as PM would be to cut taxes and curb public spending. Bearing in mind the modus operandi of the Conservative party at the moment is very much Divide et Impera which is always a good political tactic when a government needs to push through those policies which result from the "difficult decisions" they've made... it doesn't take much imagination to work out who the next targets of her hard-nosed approach would be.

The demonisation of the sick and disabled is already well under way, so that's already in the bag. It's as well to remind ourselves that pensioners are the biggest draw on the welfare budget - it's now accepted that the state pension is a benefit, so those curbs on public spending will undoubtedly further hit the already pared-down services that this demographic need and rely on.

But, she's now a rallying point for the right of the party - and not a few of the general public.

As they say, a week is a long time in politics. There is a way to go before your elections and things can and do change.

Dressing all the candidates as Count Binface might save a few of them.

Growstuff - nope no chance.

BlueBelle

If Braverman ever heads this country I m off nicenanny3 and I don’t think I d be travelling alone
You are welcome to this two faced cruel woman

me too.. where shall we go?

If we pooled all our money perhaps we could buy a Caribbean island, declare independence, then spend the rest of our days arguing about the best way to run it, whilst laying around on the beach sipping cocktails and going for a swim with the flying fish.

It would have to be out of the way of the prevailing wind/hurricanes.

Whitewavemark2

If we pooled all our money perhaps we could buy a Caribbean island, declare independence, then spend the rest of our days arguing about the best way to run it, whilst laying around on the beach sipping cocktails and going for a swim with the flying fish.

I'm in...

I've heard there are cheap flights to Rwanda.

But, she's now a rallying point for the right of the party - and not a few of the general public.

That's as may be, Dickens, but social surveys consistently show that most of the 'public' are not as far to the right as tory politicians, so I feel that Braveman's chances of pulling together enough public support to make the tory party a united and credible party again are slim. Particularly as she now has a challenger in the shape of the Reform Party.

Nor, incidentally, do I think that Farage, who has 7 times failed to even be elected as an MP, would be a leader likely to achieve the resurgence of the tory party. I know we're not even discussing him, but the possibility has been mooted...

growstuff

I've heard there are cheap flights to Rwanda.

Nah. I prefer the Caribbean island... 😂

*If Braverman ever heads this country I m off nicenanny3 and I don’t think I d be travelling alone
You are welcome to this two faced cruel woman*

Yes, I’ll be joining you Bluebell I can’t understand why anyone would want Braverman to be PM!

But then again I never understood why anyone wanted Boris to be PM !

MaizieD

growstuff

I've heard there are cheap flights to Rwanda.

Nah. I prefer the Caribbean island... 😂

So would I, but they might not have us in the Caribbean.

I can’t stomach the way that she keeps saying she speaks for the people of this country. She doesn’t speak for me.

growstuff

MaizieD

growstuff

I've heard there are cheap flights to Rwanda.

Nah. I prefer the Caribbean island... 😂

So would I, but they might not have us in the Caribbean.

I'll play my 'Jamaican heritage' card 😁

The Tories need at least 10 years in the wilderness to rethink and I think the electorate will give it to them.

Grantanow

The Tories need at least 10 years in the wilderness to rethink and I think the electorate will give it to them.

Depends on how well Labour do when they are in Government.

If no noticeable improvements or beneficial changes are made, the Conservatives could be elected after one term of Labour.

Does anyone know why the Liberal Democrats are so very quiet these days? It’s almost as if they have gone away.

ronib

Does anyone know why the Liberal Democrats are so very quiet these days? It’s almost as if they have gone away.

What I do know is that the Lib Dem’s are working very hard in their target constituencies, I’m in one and they are buzzing around like busy bees. I suspect their campaign will be very focussed on winnable seats.

GrannyGravy13

Grantanow

The Tories need at least 10 years in the wilderness to rethink and I think the electorate will give it to them.

Depends on how well Labour do when they are in Government.

If no noticeable improvements or beneficial changes are made, the Conservatives could be elected after one term of Labour.

There is always that danger, GG13.

This made my morning, hot off the press from Joe. Suella’s cameo is so apt. NB contains a bit of swearing, so not for the delicate.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9jnFPwneh8

Casdon

This made my morning, hot off the press from Joe. Suella’s cameo is so apt. NB contains a bit of swearing, so not for the delicate.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9jnFPwneh8

🤣🤣🤣

On the latest The Rest is Politics Alastair Campbell recounts a conversation he had with Allan Clarke in which the latter said to him 'you'll be in power for at least ten years because we f*****g hate each other more than we hate you'. Sounds, hopefully, as true now as it did back then!