Is this the way the Tories are heading?

Katie590

We won’t know how much impact Farage makes until Election Day a lot of voters share his aims and prejudices whether Labour or Tory voters. We saw in the Brexit vote not all Labour are socialists, however do we really see Reform winning many/any seats?

Most polls predict one or maybe two seats, at a push. Not enough to influence much - particularly if Labour get a large majority.

One Reform candidate has already stood down to allow Gavin Williamson an easy run. Presumably, he’s been offered something in return. Or, so `Farage thinks.

We shall see.

LizzieDrip

Iam64 I have lost the will to debate after being castigated for giving my views (on a different thread). Apparently I get too ‘het up’.

So I’ve stepped back from the fray, but still enjoy following the views expressed by you and others (who perhaps don’t get quite so ‘het up’)

💪🏼 come on lizziedrip

I don’t mean this literally but you get the drift😄😄😄

"Once more into the fray. Into the last good fight I'll ever know. Live and die on this day. Live and die on this day."

As the Cornish say “bugger them!”

LizzieDrip

Iam64 I have lost the will to debate after being castigated for giving my views (on a different thread). Apparently I get too ‘het up’.

So I’ve stepped back from the fray, but still enjoy following the views expressed by you and others (who perhaps don’t get quite so ‘het up’)

You don’t mean “you get your knickers in a twist” 😂😂😂😂

Whitewavemark2

Spot on! Bring on the revolution 😂😂🙌🙌

Katie590

Respectfully, I beg to differ, I believe very few voters, other than disgruntled Tories, will vote for reform. I think they might gain a maximum of four seats. Let’s wait and see.

My prediction is 1 possibly 2 who will then promptly join the Tories and fight for it to become a far right outfit.

WW and Cossy (and Tennyson) thanks for the moral boost Much needed and appreciated.

We say ‘bugger ‘em’ in Yorkshire too!

Here they come the fascist worms out of the woodwork.

Someone by the name of Gribbin - Reform candidate for Battle and Bexhill.

“Britain should have been NEUTRAL against the Nazis”

So neutral against 6 million people killed as a result of scapegoating people of a particular faith.

Next he will say “they didn’t understand German culture”😡💪🏼

LizzieDrip

WW and Cossy (and Tennyson) thanks for the moral boost Much needed and appreciated.

We say ‘bugger ‘em’ in Yorkshire too!

Not just Yorkshire down south too!

Am I alone in remembering far left as those who wanted to nationalise everything? Blair got rid of Clause 4, so the party moved to the right. The far left produced some excellent MPs who believed in worker's rights, established and fought for a free NHS and decent education. They were dedicated and moral people. It's a pity there aren't more like them in the party today.
Let's remember
Aneurin Bevan
Barbara Castle
Tony Benn
Clare Short
John Smith
Robin Cook
All to the left of today's LP

I really enjoy your posts so I do hope that you ignore the rudeness of the poster who described you as being het-up.
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LizzieDrip

Iam64 I have lost the will to debate after being castigated for giving my views (on a different thread). Apparently I get too ‘het up’.

So I’ve stepped back from the fray, but still enjoy following the views expressed by you and others (who perhaps don’t get quite so ‘het up’)

We all get het up, at times, over politics, because we all see it as important for us all.

Different views are always good - otherwise, it becomes an echo chamber.

So, untwist your knickers, if they were ever twisted lol, and have your say. 😉

Yes it’s good we ALL get the opportunity to put in our two penn’orth. Makes for a more interesting debate.

LizzieDrip

WW and Cossy (and Tennyson) thanks for the moral boost Much needed and appreciated.

We say ‘bugger ‘em’ in Yorkshire too!

Yes but with a Yorkshire accent. My great aunt living in London had a parrot that said it, and everyone knew who it was copying because of the accent.

Glorianny

Am I alone in remembering far left as those who wanted to nationalise everything? Blair got rid of Clause 4, so the party moved to the right. The far left produced some excellent MPs who believed in worker's rights, established and fought for a free NHS and decent education. They were dedicated and moral people. It's a pity there aren't more like them in the party today.
Let's remember
Aneurin Bevan
Barbara Castle
Tony Benn
Clare Short
John Smith
Robin Cook
All to the left of today's LP

Whilst I don’t wish to nationalise everything, nationalising our utilities was a disaster!

Urmstongran

Yes it’s good we ALL get the opportunity to put in our two penn’orth. Makes for a more interesting debate.

👏👏👏👏

Thanks all - your words are really appreciated and I agree with your comments.

Knickers well and truly untwisted - it was very uncomfortable having ‘em twisted actually, so it’s a big relief

Loving the image of the parrot saying ‘bugger ‘em’ with a Yorkshire accent ‘*Glorianny*

I don’t know if that’s the way the Conservatives are heading. None of us do. We can speculate but we can’t know. For what it’s worth, I don’t think Nigel Farage will join with the Conservatives but I guess we’ll all have to wait until after the election and see what happens then. Pointless to speculate.

LizzyDrip you really can’t beat a pair of comfy knickers, can you?
Just wondering, should my comment be on the do you feel young thread? Anyway, I’m all for comfy knickers, and comfy everything else too.

Remember that famous quote though maddyone
“If the world were good for nothing else, it is a fine subject for speculation.” (William Hazlitt)
It’s true, we all speculate about what’s going to happen, life would be very dull if we didn’t.

Very true Casdon. I didn’t think of that. It’s just that I don’t know the answer to the question. I guess we’ll all know after the election.

Now on the subject of comfy knickers…..

Oo yes Maddyone I’m all for comfy knickers

Freya

Thank you for your very “kind” words.

I’ve never expected anyone to agree with me, and you’re talking nonsense about Rayner, a woman you clearly don’t like, which is absolutely fine.

I’m neither pompous nor in need of your false sympathy. “Poor you”.

Think if anyone comes across as “pompous” on this thread, it’s actually you.

I’m actually far more of a centralist, than “leftie”, but I simply cannot bear to have a further 14 years of utter turmoil such as this government has provided, so yes, I will be voting Labour at the GE.

I’m certainly not “Ill informed”, I take a great interest in politics and others views.

I’m not the one who referred to her as “rabid” left, and yes she’s very outspoken and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with challenging if you don’t agree with something.

This govt has done nothing but fall out with other and point the finger at each other at every opportunity.

I’m sorry you’re unable to express your own views or enter into debates without becoming personal and insulting.

LizzieDrip

Iam64 I have lost the will to debate after being castigated for giving my views (on a different thread). Apparently I get too ‘het up’.

So I’ve stepped back from the fray, but still enjoy following the views expressed by you and others (who perhaps don’t get quite so ‘het up’)

Well not het up but amazed that Sunak has said nothing on Braverman remaining a candidate after that.

Cossy

Glorianny

Am I alone in remembering far left as those who wanted to nationalise everything? Blair got rid of Clause 4, so the party moved to the right. The far left produced some excellent MPs who believed in worker's rights, established and fought for a free NHS and decent education. They were dedicated and moral people. It's a pity there aren't more like them in the party today.
Let's remember
Aneurin Bevan
Barbara Castle
Tony Benn
Clare Short
John Smith
Robin Cook
All to the left of today's LP

Whilst I don’t wish to nationalise everything, nationalising our utilities was a disaster!

Ah yes. We had reasonable costs, were not pouring money into the pockets of investors, who always pass on price hikes but never price reductions.
Then there's water. The sea is full of sewage, so are many rivers. While investors have taken £85 Billion + out of 10 water companies.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw4478wnjdpo
But public ownership was dreadful????