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What is it that attracts racists, Islamaphobes, homophobes and general bigots to Nigel Farage?

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 10:25:05

I’ve pinched this question from James O’Brian. And to me it is obvious, - they are fascists - talking about replacing the police with paramilitaries and bringing back the death penalty as well as shoot f….g immigrants has huge echoes of 1930s Germany.

So why would you vote for him?

Nicenanny3 Fri 28-Jun-24 14:58:04

Ben Habib Co chairman of Reform Party. Born in Karachi to an English mother and Pakistani father, Mr Habib moved to England in 1979. He said if elected he would ‘dramatically slash’ ‘rampant’ immigration.

Ben Habib’s official announcement to be in the running for the newly-named Wellingborough and Rushden seat means he will be battling against Gen Kitchen (Lab), Christopher Townsend (Lib Dem), Paul Mannion (Green), and the as-yet-unannounced Conservative candidate.

fancythat Fri 28-Jun-24 14:59:21

Namsnanny

Galaxy

Many gay people view stonewall as homophobic at the moment.

Again sense.

Sorry to quote you so much, Galaxy but this is a goady thread which I shall desist from engaging in.
Thank you for bothering, and being a voice of reason.😄

It is a goady thread. You are correct.

Not really of a WW2 standard. Again in my opinion.

You are coming across as desperate in this thread WW2. I dont really know why.

Nicenanny3 Fri 28-Jun-24 15:02:02

Muslim entrepreneur has donated hundreds of thousands of pounds to Reform UK, claiming the UK has "lost control of our borders”.

The precise amount Zia Yusuf has given to the party has not been disclosed but Reform UK claims it is the biggest donation of their general election campaign so far.

Reform UK leader Nigel Farage has faced criticism from Muslim organisations after he said a growing number of Muslims do not share British values.

When asked by the BBC about critics labelling some in Reform UK racist, Mr Yusuf said the party leadership "feel very strongly that we should protect British values and put British people of all religions and creeds first."

As well as being a donor, the BBC understands the 37-year-old will have a public role for Reform UK during the campaign.


In an interview with The Telegraph, which first reported the story of his donation,, external Mr Yusuf said: "I love Britain and I'm a patriot, a British Muslim patriot, which I believe the vast majority of Muslims in the UK are."

Mr Yusuf, who earned an estimated £31m from selling his luxury concierge app Velocity Black last year, told the BBC he believed "unsustainable" net migration levels were making it harder for legal migrants to integrate and overwhelming the NHS.

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petra Fri 28-Jun-24 15:06:04

Apologies if I’m wrong, WhiteWavemark2 but I don’t recall you asking what attracts anti- Semite's to the Labour Party. 🤔

Chestnut Fri 28-Jun-24 15:09:45

petra

Apologies if I’m wrong, WhiteWavemark2 but I don’t recall you asking what attracts anti- Semite's to the Labour Party. 🤔

😂😂😂

petra Fri 28-Jun-24 15:11:40

Chestnut

petra

Apologies if I’m wrong, WhiteWavemark2 but I don’t recall you asking what attracts anti- Semite's to the Labour Party. 🤔

😂😂😂

Am I wrong 🤷‍♀️. I don’t think so. 😉

Chestnut Fri 28-Jun-24 15:18:16

Ladyleftfieldlover

Maybe Nigel Fromage attracts racists, bigots etc., because they (the bigots and racists) see him as one of them. Moths drawn to a bright light.

They are drawn to Reform because they are homeless and this is the only mainstream right wing party they can latch onto.

This thread was getting hysterical with comments about Nazi Germany, and just because we need some control over immigration. The election environment is also getting like the wild west so just expect more wild accusations in the next few days.

Koalama Fri 28-Jun-24 15:28:16

Well said Judy bloom. I'm voting reform Reform and I do not fall into the that racist blah blah catagory, I suppose the lefties, all come under the money grabbing sit on your @ss all day on pip catagory then do they!! Each to there own

Casdon Fri 28-Jun-24 15:45:10

I do find it truly shocking that anybody is taken in by Farage, and I think it’s likely that some more truths will come out of the woodwork in the next few days about Reform.. If so many people are caught on camera or online saying something racist, misogynistic, or threatening, particularly when the evidence is such that they can’t deny that they did indeed say it, then it’s burying your head in the sand to say these people aren’t representative of the candidates of Reform. By voting for them you are tacitly accepting that fact.

Nicenanny3 Fri 28-Jun-24 15:48:33

Smear campaign in full flow by the mainstream parties and their supporters it seems.

Chestnut Fri 28-Jun-24 15:53:44

Casdon It is truly shocking that people are taken in by lots of things. I find it shocking that you can't see that these racist types are latching themselves onto Reform like limpets on the side of a ship because they have nowhere else to go. It doesn't mean the party supports their views. I repeat, I do not vote Reform but I believe we should have a right wing party for balance and the Tories are weak in that respect.

nightowl Fri 28-Jun-24 15:56:52

Well I can’t stand Nigel Farage but this is such a typical James O’Brien question - goady in the extreme. He doesn’t seek debate, only an echo chamber, and if anyone disagrees with him he just shouts them down and then cuts them off. So it’s not surprising the thread has gone the way it has, unfortunately.

Casdon Fri 28-Jun-24 15:56:58

How have you come to the conclusion that I can’t see that Chestnut? Do you think we should have a far left wing party too for balance?

Primrose53 Fri 28-Jun-24 16:04:11

Nicenanny3

Ben Habib Co chairman of Reform Party. Born in Karachi to an English mother and Pakistani father, Mr Habib moved to England in 1979. He said if elected he would ‘dramatically slash’ ‘rampant’ immigration.

Ben Habib’s official announcement to be in the running for the newly-named Wellingborough and Rushden seat means he will be battling against Gen Kitchen (Lab), Christopher Townsend (Lib Dem), Paul Mannion (Green), and the as-yet-unannounced Conservative candidate.

I think Ben Habib is great! He is one of the best guests on GB News. Always polite, always bright and cheerful and super intelligent.

Chestnut Fri 28-Jun-24 16:11:13

Casdon

How have you come to the conclusion that I can’t see that Chestnut? Do you think we should have a far left wing party too for balance?

We have several left wing parties. I never said far right or far left because either would be unbearable. Reform are right wing not far right. People don't seem to understand the difference.

MayBee70 Fri 28-Jun-24 16:12:32

Koalama

Well said Judy bloom. I'm voting reform Reform and I do not fall into the that racist blah blah catagory, I suppose the lefties, all come under the money grabbing sit on your @ss all day on pip catagory then do they!! Each to there own

Thus speaks a typical Reform voter. Are you saying pip claimants are scroungers? Heaven forbid that Farage ever leads this country and you find yourself falling on hard times.

Chocolatelovinggran Fri 28-Jun-24 16:17:37

So, Nicenanny, Primrose, Oreo et al, are you happy to hear our Prime Minister referred to as a fxxxxxx pxxx?
Do you feel that this Reform supporter speaks for you? Speaks for the " silent minority "?
Does my disgust at people suggesting young members of the forces should use boats full of people as target practice make me ""woke" or a " pearl clutcher"?

Ladyleftfieldlover Fri 28-Jun-24 16:20:38

I made a note in my journal at the beginning of this election that towards the end it would get very nasty. It has.

Nicenanny3 Fri 28-Jun-24 16:22:21

Primrose 53 I think Ben Habib is great! He is one of the best guests on GB News. Always polite, always bright and cheerful and super intelligent.

I agree he's great, the housewife's favourite on GB news 😊

yellowfox Fri 28-Jun-24 16:24:12

There are fascists and racists in all political parties. Nigel Farage is NOT racist, he speaks the truth about the terrible state this country is in and getting worse.
It is about time that Farage bashing was ceased. Have you lot nothing better to do? So sad!

Casdon Fri 28-Jun-24 16:25:18

Chestnut

Casdon

How have you come to the conclusion that I can’t see that Chestnut? Do you think we should have a far left wing party too for balance?

We have several left wing parties. I never said far right or far left because either would be unbearable. Reform are right wing not far right. People don't seem to understand the difference.

I absolutely do understand the difference and Reform are far right wing Chestnut, anything further right would be outright fascist. That’s why I’m shocked, when people excuse Nigel Farage for what he says because he is outwardly personable. You’d have thought a lesson would have been learned about that from Boris Johnson, but it appears not. If you mean by far left the Workers Party of Great Britain, the support is minimal - but if one should have a voice, so should the other. Do you support PR?

Nicenanny3 Fri 28-Jun-24 16:25:25

Chocolatelovinggran

So, Nicenanny, Primrose, Oreo et al, are you happy to hear our Prime Minister referred to as a fxxxxxx pxxx?
Do you feel that this Reform supporter speaks for you? Speaks for the " silent minority "?
Does my disgust at people suggesting young members of the forces should use boats full of people as target practice make me ""woke" or a " pearl clutcher"?

Of course not, I'm just as disgusted as you. This was a smear campaign by the MSM.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 28-Jun-24 16:27:48

Allegedly Andrew Parker is an actor.

Is this a stitch up ?

Nicenanny3 Fri 28-Jun-24 16:28:17

16:12MayBee70

Not very nice to be labelled something you are not is it!

Greyisnotmycolour Fri 28-Jun-24 16:30:18

Why are racists so embarrassed about admitting they are? I have never met a racist, I don't think they really exist. I've met and read of many who say "I'm no racist but..." However, I've never come across anyone who says "I'm racist and proud of it". Isn't that strange? Are racists really an urban myth?