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What is it that attracts racists, Islamaphobes, homophobes and general bigots to Nigel Farage?

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 10:25:05

I’ve pinched this question from James O’Brian. And to me it is obvious, - they are fascists - talking about replacing the police with paramilitaries and bringing back the death penalty as well as shoot f….g immigrants has huge echoes of 1930s Germany.

So why would you vote for him?

GrannyGravy13 Fri 28-Jun-24 16:33:51

Disclaimer I am not a supporter of Reform U.K. but I am in favour of fairness, and dislike underhand tactics and smear campaigns which seem prevalent in this election.

petra Fri 28-Jun-24 16:34:56

GrannyGravy13

Allegedly Andrew Parker is an actor.

Is this a stitch up ?

I said as much when the story broke.

TwiceAsNice Fri 28-Jun-24 16:36:48

Nigel Farage stood up for Putin recently and said it was the Western countries fault he invaded Ukraine. For that alone he disgusts me

Chestnut Fri 28-Jun-24 16:38:43

Casdon

Chestnut

Casdon

How have you come to the conclusion that I can’t see that Chestnut? Do you think we should have a far left wing party too for balance?

We have several left wing parties. I never said far right or far left because either would be unbearable. Reform are right wing not far right. People don't seem to understand the difference.

I absolutely do understand the difference and Reform are far right wing Chestnut, anything further right would be outright fascist. That’s why I’m shocked, when people excuse Nigel Farage for what he says because he is outwardly personable. You’d have thought a lesson would have been learned about that from Boris Johnson, but it appears not. If you mean by far left the Workers Party of Great Britain, the support is minimal - but if one should have a voice, so should the other. Do you support PR?

Far right is fascist as you say and Reform are not far right. Tommy Robinson is far right, Jeremy Corbin is far left. You seem to have a very low bar for the term 'far right'.

MaizieD Fri 28-Jun-24 16:42:16

From the BBC website

A spokesperson for Channel 4 News has issued a response, saying: "We strongly stand by our rigorous and duly impartial journalism which speaks for itself.

“We met Mr Parker for the first time at Reform UK party headquarters, where he was a Reform party canvasser.

"We did not pay the Reform UK canvasser or anyone else in this report. Mr Parker was not known to Channel 4 News and was filmed covertly via the undercover operation.”

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c2504p02wz3t at 14.26

Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 16:49:13

The far right - Tommy Robinson and a lot of others of his ilk are supporting Reform.

growstuff Fri 28-Jun-24 16:51:00

GrannyGravy13

Allegedly Andrew Parker is an actor.

Is this a stitch up ?

But he didn't deny what he said and claimed he used the words he did because he's an "old git". He hasn't denied that he meant what he said. He's just sore that he was caught out.

Casdon Fri 28-Jun-24 16:51:15

Chestnut

Casdon

Chestnut

Casdon

How have you come to the conclusion that I can’t see that Chestnut? Do you think we should have a far left wing party too for balance?

We have several left wing parties. I never said far right or far left because either would be unbearable. Reform are right wing not far right. People don't seem to understand the difference.

I absolutely do understand the difference and Reform are far right wing Chestnut, anything further right would be outright fascist. That’s why I’m shocked, when people excuse Nigel Farage for what he says because he is outwardly personable. You’d have thought a lesson would have been learned about that from Boris Johnson, but it appears not. If you mean by far left the Workers Party of Great Britain, the support is minimal - but if one should have a voice, so should the other. Do you support PR?

Far right is fascist as you say and Reform are not far right. Tommy Robinson is far right, Jeremy Corbin is far left. You seem to have a very low bar for the term 'far right'.

I don’t have a low bar at all, I have a moderate bar, which judges people purely on what they say. Jeremy Corbyn has no party, and possibly no seat in parliament either after the election, so he is an outdated choice for far left, surely?
You didn’t say if you support PR, which would give any party which had more than 1/650 supporting them a seat.

Chestnut Fri 28-Jun-24 16:51:27

Whitewavemark2

The far right - Tommy Robinson and a lot of others of his ilk are supporting Reform.

As I said, limpets attaching themselves to a ship. They are homeless and can't vote for any of the others because they are all left wing.

growstuff Fri 28-Jun-24 16:53:34

Chestnut

Whitewavemark2

The far right - Tommy Robinson and a lot of others of his ilk are supporting Reform.

As I said, limpets attaching themselves to a ship. They are homeless and can't vote for any of the others because they are all left wing.

Eh? Are the Conservatives really left-wing?

GrannyGravy13 Fri 28-Jun-24 16:53:40

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

Allegedly Andrew Parker is an actor.

Is this a stitch up ?

But he didn't deny what he said and claimed he used the words he did because he's an "old git". He hasn't denied that he meant what he said. He's just sore that he was caught out.

I didn’t say he had denied anything.

growstuff Fri 28-Jun-24 16:55:12

GrannyGravy13

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

Allegedly Andrew Parker is an actor.

Is this a stitch up ?

But he didn't deny what he said and claimed he used the words he did because he's an "old git". He hasn't denied that he meant what he said. He's just sore that he was caught out.

I didn’t say he had denied anything.

I didn't claim you did, but I don't see that his being a part-time actor is relevant. He wasn't stitched up. He was caught out.

MayBee70 Fri 28-Jun-24 16:58:27

Whitewavemark2

The far right - Tommy Robinson and a lot of others of his ilk are supporting Reform.

He’s been arrested in Canada….how ashamed I am that he’s from my country.

madeleine45 Fri 28-Jun-24 17:00:49

Well I definitely challenge Judy Bloom's posting that Farage represents the silent majority. He no doubt represents the silent majority of racist bigots who want to hide their appalling views in the hope that they can actually get some m p's and then begin to spout their revolting attitudes. I am very pleased that the majority of people I know, speak to, or debate with, do not have any truck with his views, and it is just good to see that they have been caught out and recorded spouting their poison. All Farage can do is to say that he would have expelled them! Well I am so pleased they have been heard saying these things so that decent people are reminded of the attitude of this group and make sure that they never get in as an mp anywhere.

Casdon Fri 28-Jun-24 17:02:44

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

Allegedly Andrew Parker is an actor.

Is this a stitch up ?

But he didn't deny what he said and claimed he used the words he did because he's an "old git". He hasn't denied that he meant what he said. He's just sore that he was caught out.

I didn’t say he had denied anything.

I didn't claim you did, but I don't see that his being a part-time actor is relevant. He wasn't stitched up. He was caught out.

It looks like we will soon find out as the police are looking at it now. It’s so disrespectful to Rishi Sunak, it makes me cringe to think about it. Andrew Parker wasn’t the only canvasser making inflammatory remarks.
news.sky.com/story/rishi-sunak-speaks-of-hurt-and-anger-at-daughters-hearing-racial-slur-from-reform-activists-13160397

westendgirl Fri 28-Jun-24 17:10:18

I still fail to see how anyone could want to be associated with Reform, which is I believe a limited company and not a political party .Well we can see what sort of people are attracted to it .

petra Fri 28-Jun-24 17:12:39

MayBee70

Whitewavemark2

The far right - Tommy Robinson and a lot of others of his ilk are supporting Reform.

He’s been arrested in Canada….how ashamed I am that he’s from my country.

Why would you feel ashamed?
As Eleanor Roosevelt said: no one can make you feel inferior without your consent

GrannyGravy13 Fri 28-Jun-24 17:13:18

Andrew Parker has appeared in Channel 4 TV shows.

On his CV his speciality is stated as secret filming

I am pleased that the Police are investigating this incident, what he said about our PM was racist and disgusting.

growstuff Fri 28-Jun-24 17:15:21

I have never wanted a Conservative to win before, but I truly hope the Conservative hangs on to Clacton.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 28-Jun-24 17:18:23

growstuff

I have never wanted a Conservative to win before, but I truly hope the Conservative hangs on to Clacton.

🤣🤣🤣

Oreo Fri 28-Jun-24 17:19:36

Chocolatelovinggran

So, Nicenanny, Primrose, Oreo et al, are you happy to hear our Prime Minister referred to as a fxxxxxx pxxx?
Do you feel that this Reform supporter speaks for you? Speaks for the " silent minority "?
Does my disgust at people suggesting young members of the forces should use boats full of people as target practice make me ""woke" or a " pearl clutcher"?

Eh?
Why are you including me ? I’m a Labour supporter not a Reform supporter.hmm

growstuff Fri 28-Jun-24 17:20:05

GrannyGravy13

Andrew Parker has appeared in Channel 4 TV shows.

On his CV his speciality is stated as secret filming

I am pleased that the Police are investigating this incident, what he said about our PM was racist and disgusting.

It's not even true! Sunak was born in the UK and his parents were born in East Africa. Their ancestors would have been born in India before Pakistan even existed.

So Mr Parker is an ignorant racist.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 17:20:07

GrannyGravy13

Andrew Parker has appeared in Channel 4 TV shows.

On his CV his speciality is stated as secret filming

I am pleased that the Police are investigating this incident, what he said about our PM was racist and disgusting.

And how do you explain Farage’s organiser and his foul comments, was he an actor as well?

GrannyGravy13 Fri 28-Jun-24 17:23:58

Whitewavemark2

GrannyGravy13

Andrew Parker has appeared in Channel 4 TV shows.

On his CV his speciality is stated as secret filming

I am pleased that the Police are investigating this incident, what he said about our PM was racist and disgusting.

And how do you explain Farage’s organiser and his foul comments, was he an actor as well?

I am not trying to explain anything Whitewavemark2

You know I am not a Reform supporter, there is just something about this incident that to me doesn’t sit right

Which is why I am pleased that the Police are investigating.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 28-Jun-24 17:25:08

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

Andrew Parker has appeared in Channel 4 TV shows.

On his CV his speciality is stated as secret filming

I am pleased that the Police are investigating this incident, what he said about our PM was racist and disgusting.

It's not even true! Sunak was born in the UK and his parents were born in East Africa. Their ancestors would have been born in India before Pakistan even existed.

So Mr Parker is an ignorant racist.

Definitely.