Riots in Southport

Mt61

growstuff

The more I think about this incident, the more I think it doesn't have much to do with the identity of the murderer. The EDL attacked a mosque because they knew the police would turn up and they then had an opportunity to attack the police - all directed by Tommy Robinson from Spain.

How on earth do you know that????

Because it’s how they operate. As I said earlier, they wanted it to be a migrant or a Muslim or both but, if it wasn’t they were going to riot anyway. They just look for excuses.

Also - follow the sky news page on this address under"riots in Downing Street by same right wingers"
chants of "stop the boats" Save our children "rule Britannia".

sky news reports that the original report of a muslim migrant being the perp is still being spread in social media.

This video
news.sky.com/story/southport-attack-misinformation-fuels-far-right-discourse-on-social-media-13188274
tickingbird I think this explains quite clearly how the misinformation led to the far right gathering of rioters, it is a lot more organised than you’d think. The power of social media.

There won't be street protests and bricks thrown at police to protest underfunding of mental health crisis services when events all come out in the wash shortly.

growstuff
growstuff

tickingbird
growstuff
I didn't claim they weren't peaceful. My point was that there were thousands of them, which suggests your claim that the EDL is a spent force is wrong.

Were you there tickingbird?

It wasn’t an EDL march.

Must try harder gs. grin
I wasn't there (I don't have much in common) - it seems you know much more than I do.

Oh dear. Now you really are struggling.

Casdon

This video
news.sky.com/story/southport-attack-misinformation-fuels-far-right-discourse-on-social-media-13188274
tickingbird I think this explains quite clearly how the misinformation led to the far right gathering of rioters, it is a lot more organised than you’d think. The power of social media.

Top video - it reveals exactly how misinformation was and still is spread.

JenniferEccles

Exactly Rondoallaturc
Well said.

Would have worked quite well on the Asians & Roma people setting fire to police cars & buses, or these mindless thugs down south with their zombie knives & machetes

Grow stuff you are just speculating, TR hasn’t been a member of EDL Since 2013, but how do you know it was him organising it, are you in cahoots with him personally? No? So just second guessing? You want to get your facts right

Mt61

Grow stuff you are just speculating, TR hasn’t been a member of EDL Since 2013, but how do you know it was him organising it, are you in cahoots with him personally? No? So just second guessing? You want to get your facts right

I watched him on TikTok. No speculation here.

(Wiki )

The EDL has no "memberships" as such anymore. People don't "join" or "register". It's a network operating through phone and social media especially X.

Check out for yourselves - Tommy Robinson 's X account for its posts and its hug following (thats easy to see on the account) including inviting people to rally and a constant racial hatred homophobic narrative

Wyllow3

(Wiki )

The EDL has no "memberships" as such anymore. People don't "join" or "register". It's a network operating through phone and social media especially X.

*Check out for yourselves - Tommy Robinson 's X account for its posts and its hug following (thats easy to see on the account) including inviting people to rally and a constant racial hatred homophobic narrative*

Was that to Saturdays protest?

Check it out.

And the looted a minimarket of alcohol and fags - not exactly a protest action. Just criminal thugs egged on by social media liars.

https://www.gransnet.com/uploads/talk/202408/medium-647364-tiktok-screengrab-copy.jpg https://www.gransnet.com/uploads/talk/202408/medium-754015-southport-4-copy.jpg

These are some of the images shared encouraging people to turn up for the Southport riot.
Information on this and a lot more from the website of "Hope not Hate"

46GrannyGravy13
Is The photo that was all over social media the same one that showed someone being arrested and was named. If so then that is a lie because that was put up by Andrew Tate and it was from last year! and had nothing to do with Southport or the Muslim community. Xx

Just to clarify- anyone who is against people arriving in the UK by boats with the intention of staying and by passing normal immigration channels is ‘far right’? Seems a bit strange to me. Anyone who is anti the Palestinians and Hamas is ‘far right’?
These labels don’t seem helpful at all, more hateful than helpful.

I am so saddened by this tragedy and fearful of the future. Has the time come for security guards to be positioned outside schools and childrens events? I wonder where this 17 year old got hold of a hunting knife?
Watching the videos of the riots in Southport and in London I think the police need more power to dissipate the trouble makers. I would support the use of water cannons.

hopenothate.org.uk/2024/07/31/the-far-right-and-the-southport-riot-what-we-know-so-far/
I was disgusted by the images posted above so had a look at the Hope Not Hate website for more information. There is a lot of factual information there if anyone wants to check who is behind the rioting and why it is fairly easy to whip up a crowd fuelled with hatred that originates from completely false information.

Has the time come for security guards to be positioned outside schools and childrens events?
I think schools are probably as safe as they can be - fences, gates, access control, buzzers, alarms, cctv, etc.
Holiday clubs and activity centres may well have to reconsider this aspect, but how do you equip every church hall, every community centre, every dance studio in the country? I think a lot will depend on how parents react to this, and what demands they will now make when leaving their children.

NannyC1

46GrannyGravy13
Is The photo that was all over social media the same one that showed someone being arrested and was named. If so then that is a lie because that was put up by Andrew Tate and it was from last year! and had nothing to do with Southport or the Muslim community. Xx

No it has nothing to do with Andrew Tate

Mt61

Grow stuff you are just speculating, TR hasn’t been a member of EDL Since 2013, but how do you know it was him organising it, are you in cahoots with him personally? No? So just second guessing? You want to get your facts right

Not second guessing, this was reported in the mainstream media.

Caasdon
*tickingbird I think this explains quite clearly how the misinformation led to the far right gathering of rioters, it is a lot more organised than you’d think. The power of social media.^

I don’t understand why you felt the need to point this out to me. I don’t do X, TikTok or any other sm. Here and very occasionally Facebook.

Don’t start running with the fake comment about me supporting the EDL. It’s about time grown up discussion was allowed without certain individuals making up nonsense because they have nothing left to put on the table.

There are 1,000’s of disenfranchised people in the U.K.

Perhaps where they live there is a large visible immigrant population.

Perhaps they have accommodation in their local vicinity where migrants are waiting for their asylum applications to be processed.

Perhaps they have witnessed females being harassed by migrants (like the footage from Dublin were a migrant man exposed himself to a young Irish female, and continued to hurl abuse at her until a passer-by intervened)

Could be all of the above or none of the above, but it is too easy to dismiss this entire cohort as far right thugs. What is evident is that they are extremely angry with the establishment/Government at what they see as an erosion of British Values (whatever they are?)

To do so will just ensure that each time there is an atrocity similar to Southport where the person responsible has a non white face we will see riots and organised thuggery.

I am not supporting them, never have never will, but to continually dismiss them and their concerns is just compounding their frustration and will in all probability lead to further and more violent situations.

tickingbird

Caasdon
*tickingbird I think this explains quite clearly how the misinformation led to the far right gathering of rioters, it is a lot more organised than you’d think. The power of social media.^

I don’t understand why you felt the need to point this out to me. I don’t do X, TikTok or any other sm. Here and very occasionally Facebook.

Don’t start running with the fake comment about me supporting the EDL. It’s about time grown up discussion was allowed without certain individuals making up nonsense because they have nothing left to put on the table.

I pointed it out to you specifically in light of our previous conversation on this thread tickingbird. You don’t need to subscribe to these sites, I don’t either, to put together an understanding of how organised the operation actually is.

Wyllow3

These are some of the images shared encouraging people to turn up for the Southport riot.
Information on this and a lot more from the website of "Hope not Hate"

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