Riots in Southport

300000 people on the streets in Brighton yesterday dancing and singing all day. Not a thug to be seen anywhere. The police have a doddle of a time taking selfies and grinning at the fun.

The party continues all weekend.

It is like a country of two halves.

Whitewavemark2

300000 people on the streets in Brighton yesterday dancing and singing all day. Not a thug to be seen anywhere. The police have a doddle of a time taking selfies and grinning at the fun.

The party continues all weekend.

It is like a country of two halves.

We said exactly the same yesterday.
50,000 visitors crammed into our tiny seaside town. Dancing, singing, smiling, all ages. Nothing destroyed, no fighting, no aggression.

The party continues all week.

You're right. It's a world apart from what is happening in the other half ot the country.

nanna8

Assuming they are 100% thugs doesn’t help. I am certain not all of them would be and there needs to be some sort of dialogue with them. Obviously not going to happen anytime soon so the riots will likely continue. Things are not always black and white.

Rioters, tearing down people’s garden walls for bricks to throw at police, setting fire to police cars, terrifying those inside a mosque NOT THUGS?

My favourite sign, personally witnessed, was

NANAS AGAINST NAZIS

I’m thinking mid having a T-shirt made with those words.

Perhaps in those towns where there is singing and dancing they don't have the concern and problems others do. Anyone tearing down walls and frightening residents should be made to clear up and pay for the damage, they are mindless and if i was an employer would sack them. However don't dismiss the concerns and fear these communities have which just ignored by those untouched by their problems because everyone has a breaking point where their families and
their see their lives being eroded.

It’s Brighton Pride weekend so of course there’s lots of singing & dancing.
But they’ll be dancing past the 100’s of rough sleepers, most of them slumped on the pavement out of their minds on drugs.

Growstuff
‘In any case, I don't see the logic of inciting even more violence against the police, even if two tier policing could be proved. Did they think they'd be let off because "it's not fair". That's the kind of thing toddlers might say.’

I agree with you, my comment wasn’t very clear.i was busy packing and should have focused more!

Kandinsky

It’s Brighton Pride weekend so of course there’s lots of singing & dancing.
But they’ll be dancing past the 100’s of rough sleepers, most of them slumped on the pavement out of their minds on drugs.

People living in communities that have not rioted or more to the point had rioters inflicted upon them, have exactly the same fears snd worries as every other community in the country.

There are pockets of deprivation and destitution here just the same as other areas.

But the difference is that outsiders are made welcome, that people here don’t allow lies about their lives describe their activities. Yes of course there are many homeless just as there are in other towns but as you walk past and pop a coin or two into their hand and wish them good day, they are always cheerful, grateful and polite, so whether they are on drugs or not they are much nicer than the rioters seem to be, and goodness knows if someone had reason to riot it is them.

This weekend is a joyous celebration of life- long May it last.

It is a wonderful counterbalance of love to all the hate we are witnessing.

The two-tier policing is a lie being put about by Farage and Tice.

Say it often enough and it gets believed.

Yes of course there are many homeless just as there are in other towns but as you walk past and pop a coin or two into their hand and wish them good day, they are always cheerful, grateful and polite

Are you living in the Mary Poppins film?

I know many many lesbians who dont feel welcome at pride, sorry but people are using 'communities of which they know nothing about to make political points.

The police in Brighton also have to contend with drunkeness and violence.. often from visitors.. This w/e is a time for everyone to embrace them with friendship.. they have a thankless task at the best of times..

and I agree Kandinsky, we have a real problem with homelessness here, exacerbated of course by the fact that Brighton is a friendly, welcoming, inclusive but expensive seaside town which of course brings many visitors who simply can't afford to live here.. There are many homelessness charities here but obviously not enough affordable housing..

Galaxy

I know many many lesbians who dont feel welcome at pride, sorry but people are using 'communities of which they know nothing about to make political points.

There were thousands of lesbians yesterday, all dressed up singing and dancing.

Very welcome indeed.

You really are better not to claim what people do or do not know - you haven’t the first clue about lives on GN

Peace and harmony - the way to go.

Galaxy

I know many many lesbians who dont feel welcome at pride, sorry but people are using 'communities of which they know nothing about to make political points.

I'm sorry to hear that Galaxy.. I only know lesbians through the art world down here and don't understand the politics otherwise..

Yes but many lesbians who don't feel welcome as you must know if you know the community. Many who have been threatened again you must know that. The world isnt simply the goodies and the baddies, lovely if it was just like a Mary Poppins film in fact.

I didn't see the comment was about political point scoring at all. I thought it was more about human nature in general. But what do I know?

Maybe it wasnt political point scoring, maybe its pretending that complex issues can be reduced to goodies and baddies. I think that will make things worse to be honest. Not that what is said on here matters in the great scheme of things but I worry that the government is going to look at it that way too.

I simply can’t believe the comments - I introduce an example of how people can live together in peace and harmony despite their many differences and it is immediately crushed.

Your misery knows no bounds😄😄

pascal30 understands and points out how inclusivity helps communities to thrive and live peacefully.

Yes it is expensive, yes people on minimum income are struggling - far more than many areas up north because the cost of living is much higher, but they don’t buy into the great lie of immigration causing their struggle.

In fact asylum seekers find a welcome here - as friends of mine can testify who help run a charity doing just that.

So we can live a different way of life - and if you wish to describe it as Mary Poppins - so be it. At least we aren’t rioting.

Galaxy

Yes but many lesbians who don't feel welcome as you must know if you know the community. Many who have been threatened again you must know that. The world isnt simply the goodies and the baddies, lovely if it was just like a Mary Poppins film in fact.

I'm afraid I don't know what you are talking about Galaxy.. I just paint and draw with other people, including lesbians and we don't really talk much.. perhaps you could explain further..

I am incensed by the rioting and also that inevitably it reached our nearest city centre Hull yesterday. It coincided with an annual music festival in another area of the city. The riots caused all transport in and out to be cancelled. Pleasant day out ruined by mindless scum.
Local radio this morning are reporting many members of the public are voluntarily helping with the cleaning up. It’s a sign of hope. Such decent people around.

Where there is harmony -seek discord

Not for me I’m afraid.

It's not discord I just dont want to pretend, that's partly why we are where we are.
If I say it's all working brilliantly that wont make it true.
Sorry Pascal I am not sure this is the place, it will just turn into an arguement on that contenscious issue which wont help!.

The Far Right?
In Liverpool? The most Far Left district in England?
The media and Starmer are fooling no-one.

Starmer is about to go on holiday.

To label every single one of those people as thugs is just plain ignorant. Many are ,as I have said a couple of times now, but others have GENUINE feelings of fear and resentment because they are disadvantaged and can’t see a way out of their situation. This black and white view and calling people Nazis is appalling and needs calling out. People are not rioting because they are happy.