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Boxer forces female competitor to quit at the Olympic games [Title edited by GNHQ at poster's request]

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Smileless2012 Thu 01-Aug-24 12:55:22

I know there's a thread in Sport about the games but think this deserves it's own thread.

Algerian TW boxer Imane Khelif landed a huge right hand on the Italian female competitor, forcing her to quit after just 46 seconds into the bout.

SueDonim Thu 01-Aug-24 15:05:47

Maybe the IOC is waiting for a woman to be killed in the ring before acting. Their reasoning is that these trans-identifying men have female in their passports despite today’s fighter having previously failed a gender test. I’m not going to watch any film of it, I don’t think my stomach could take it.

I don’t know how these men can live with themselves when they are CHEATS loud and clear. angry

Smileless2012 Thu 01-Aug-24 15:06:20

Even if she hadn't conceded and continued with the fight he wouldn't have won on his own merit, to do that he'd have to compete against a man which he's obviously not up too, so competes against women.

Wyllow3 Thu 01-Aug-24 15:08:08

The problem is because it is in the hand of individual sports bodies in various areas of sports to make the decision -

I don't think it would have been possible for the IOC to make an across the board decision with he current try muddled state of affairs.

(I do think, btw, that trans women cannot ever take part in Womens sports)

Smileless2012 Thu 01-Aug-24 15:11:54

The problem is that the 'rights' of TW are being put above those of biological women and in this particular case, women's safety.

Baggs Thu 01-Aug-24 15:13:01

I have seen non-Olympic footage of sportswomen and girls going the whole way to the start of their event and then walking away very publicly. Power to them!

I think such an approach would have been extremely effective at the Paris Olympic women's boxing events that allow males to fight against females. The women have earned their place and the IOC's silly rules have robbed them of fair wins before the event even happens.

JaneJudge Thu 01-Aug-24 15:13:53

maddyone

This is absolutely awful. The poor woman being told she was competing against a man. Especially in boxing. This is male violence against a woman.

yes

I haven't read the whole thread but I am starting to wonder whether the whole training/coaching thing is absolutely brutal to win win win that the powers that be don't care about women either. I mean, what's the point of them?

ExDancer Thu 01-Aug-24 15:14:22

That was a very astute decision the young lady made, and full marks to her for depriving him of any sense of achievement. She deserves a gold medal for her bravery.
But we should weep for the 4 years she spent training which she will never have again.

JaneJudge Thu 01-Aug-24 15:14:30

Smileless2012

The problem is that the 'rights' of TW are being put above those of biological women and in this particular case, women's safety.

yes, it's extremely dangerous

BlueBelle Thu 01-Aug-24 15:16:52

So what can we do apart from discuss it ?

Callistemon213 Thu 01-Aug-24 15:19:29

The IOC should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this to go ahead.
This decision is positively dangerous and it was never going to be a fair competition.

Boxing is not something I'd normally watch but we did watch a little of one match where a competitor whose family we know was declared the loser even though she was clearly in the lead and her competitor had received a penalty.

Even the experienced commentators were bewildered st the result.
There were many boos in the crowd as this decision.

Jackiest Thu 01-Aug-24 15:20:53

I have said in another thread I am against segregating thing into male and female unless it really matters and boxing is something where it really really matters.

Callistemon213 Thu 01-Aug-24 15:21:16

BlueBelle

So what can we do apart from discuss it ?

Let the women athletes know we support them.

JaneJudge Thu 01-Aug-24 15:23:41

They are being let down by the people who are supposed to represent them

David49 Thu 01-Aug-24 15:23:43

I wonder it the next opponent will stand and fight or just walk out?.

Callistemon213 Thu 01-Aug-24 15:24:32

Jackiest

I have said in another thread I am against segregating thing into male and female unless it really matters and boxing is something where it really really matters.

Of course it really matters! It might not until the agd of about 10 before puberty, but after that, yes, it makes a difference.

Cycling, running, jumping, swimming?

The only sport where it may not matter is equestrian sports where there relationship between powerful horse and ride is what counts.

Callistemon213 Thu 01-Aug-24 15:25:03

Excuse typos.

Galaxy Thu 01-Aug-24 15:25:19

Boycott all those who enable this Male violence. I will never watch the Olympics again. I view the BBC as laughable. This danger is not just to women, it's an undermining of faith in organisations.

Urmstongran Thu 01-Aug-24 15:25:20

I’m not against trans (aka fake, it helps me remember) women. Their body, their mind, their choice. But in sport competing against women for a MEDAL AT ANY PRICE? No way, José. They should take up learning to play the violin or competitive chess etc when they get their ‘realignments’ done.

Iam64 Thu 01-Aug-24 15:25:32

It feels like organised violence against women. I’ve had ‘domestic abuse’ as an ear worm. In domestic abuse it’s acknowledged that men are physically stronger..
How did we get here and as BlueBelle says what to do

Urmstongran Thu 01-Aug-24 15:29:36

Yet Lisa Nandy says ‘it’s up to independent sports bodies to decide on acceptability’. Tosh. Wriggling out of the awkward debate. It ought to be a blanket ban.

Aveline Thu 01-Aug-24 15:30:01

It's just sick cheating. What is wrong with the IOC? Are they blind or stupid? Why can't they see what we all see?

Bridie22 Thu 01-Aug-24 15:30:52

That's not competitive boxing, it's assault!!

Galaxy Thu 01-Aug-24 15:31:11

Lisa nandy has enabled this. She was one of the key players supporting men in womens prisons.

JaneJudge Thu 01-Aug-24 15:31:51

be careful Aveline 'sick' means something good/cool/impressive now

Aveline Thu 01-Aug-24 15:32:35

Not to me it doesn't! I suspect most Grans understand what I mean by it.