Yaxley-Lennon - false passport?

Nandalot

But it still seems, from the Reuters article in the link by Wyllow3, that he skipped bail.

Yes, he did.

Let’s get all this into some perspective.

Yaxley filled out an immigration form in Canada, on this form he put his country of birth as Ireland.

An Irish parliamentarian has suggested that if he had put Ireland as his country of birth on his passport application then his passport is not valid.

He could not have lied on his passport application as his original birth certificate would have to have been provided along with parental wedding certificate etc.

So Yaxley lied on an immigration form, he’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer and probably thought as he was travelling on an Irish passport then he was to put Ireland as his country of birth.

If you were born in England but have an Irish parent it will have GB as your place of birth on your Irish passport rather than a county such as Cork.

Maerion

I agree, Wyllow. Yaxley-Lennon has the ring of an aristocratic hippie running a commune … or maybe a cult which YL certainly does run, his followers all too willing to crowdfund his lifestyle.

I did some sleuthing through genealogy records. Both of his maternal grandparents were born in Dublin and married in Dublin. His mother was born in Dublin in 1957.

Looks like his maternal grandparents and their Dublin-born children first arrived in Luton in the early 1960s whereupon they had more two more children. The family appears in Luton voter lists from 1963 onwards. His mother is first listed to vote in 1975 when she was 18.

She married English-born Malcom Yaxley in 1980 and Thomas Lennon in 1990. Birth registrations in Luton for Stephen Yaxley and his slightly older brother were then re-registered.

The Irish Department of Foreign Affairs says you are automatically an Irish citizen if one of your parents was an Irish citizen who was born in Ireland. You can also become an Irish citizen if one of your grandparents was born in Ireland. Either way he would qualify to apply for an Irish passport but unless his parents just happened to be visiting Ireland when his mother gave birth (but still registered him in Luton), I doubt very much that he was born in Ireland.

Apparently he and a second cousin on his mother's side Kevin Carroll set up the EDL together, no idea where he was born

I just wanted to say a big thank you to earlier posters. Due to the information posted on this thread, my son has just received his Irish passport! It’s taken a year, but without this thread we wouldn’t have known that as he had a Northern Irish grandparent he had an entitlement. Thank you!

Great result MandL

That’s good to hear.

I am an Irish citizen but my children had to register on the FBR, my son is going to live in Dublin as of January so he’s thrilled to have an Irish passport.

My daughter-in-law got her Irish passport very quickly. She was born in America but her father was born in Ireland.

Basically if your parent was born there you don't have the same rigmarole as if they were born outside Ireland but were registered after

If your parent was born in Ireland, you are automatically an Irish citizen by birth.

It does qualify you MissAdventure, but then the fun begins, as you gather ALL of the relevant documents.

Since Brexit, it has become more complicated, because there are now so many applications.

Good to hear!

Fleurpepper

Didn't you read Sago's post just above. It does- but the procedure is very strict, proof required with birth certificates, and takes quite a while. So someone desperate, because of criminal conviction on original passport from place of birth, and Brexit restrictions to movement to Europe- may have taken illegal shortcuts. In this case, if and when proven by investigation, stating Ireland as place of birth.

One of my friends applied after Brexit, and the procedure was not simple and it took over 1 year.

It didn't take long when I did it. I think there was a bit of a logjam round Brexit but if you've got all the certificates it is straightforward and it definitely didn't take anywhere near a year when I did it.