Hezbollah Exploding Pagers!

People may have differing opinions on here but I find the use of smiley emojis sickening

Rekarie

Galaxy

It's funny maybe I missed it but I don't remember any sad threads when Hezbollah were bombing children playing football.

So true. Twelve children were killed.

I'm at a loss as to how so much barbarism is ongoing in the middle east. Arab against Arab is somehow seen differently when it's the Jewish race involved. Hundreds of thousands of people misplaced , murdered yet hardly a word. It's just when Jews fight back there is a clamour of indignation.

Think back to all the atrocities the western world has experienced over the last decades.

Were any of those perpetuated by Jewish terrorists? I dont think so.

I don't understand the comment about "Arab against Arab". Which Arabs do you think were responsible?
Israel has to be the Number 1 suspect, but Israel certainly isn't Arab. Iran backs Hezbollah, but Iranians aren't Arabs. So which other Arabs were involved?

If you're talking about other conflicts, it might surprise you to know that even amongst Arabs, there are differences. My son-in-law identifies as Arab, but his background is Sudan, which is in Africa. He certainly doesn't think he has much in common with Arabs from the Saudi peninsula or Syria.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/sep/18/the-guardian-view-on-israels-booby-trap-war-and-unacceptable
It's clear that the use of booby traps is against international law. Children have died. I find it hard to believe that anyone with a shred of humanity wouldn't be horrified. Of course now we have the real prospect of escalation and all out war. How much suffering is enough?

Arabs are mocking Arabs on X.
This link contains content that people might find offensive.

www.memri.org/reports/following-hizbullah-pager-explosions-arabs-social-media-slam-organization-and-celebrate-its

Some utterly sickening posts on here. “More power to their elbow” Shame on you.
The Israeli government is widely despised and will never win this war. And along the way innocents will be murdered and starve to death.
The way we sit here in our ivory towers and pass judgement is very sad indeed.

LaCrepescule

Some utterly sickening posts on here. “More power to their elbow” Shame on you.
The Israeli government is widely despised and will never win this war. And along the way innocents will be murdered and starve to death.
The way we sit here in our ivory towers and pass judgement is very sad indeed.

I despise Israel almost as much as I despise Hamas, it’s Hamas that started this war with the aim of destroying Israel, in that situation Israel is going to fight, - to the last Palestinian, if needed.
Today it was pagers, they will use whatever means they can to destroy terrorists.

LaCrepescule

Some utterly sickening posts on here. “More power to their elbow” Shame on you.
The Israeli government is widely despised and will never win this war. And along the way innocents will be murdered and starve to death.
The way we sit here in our ivory towers and pass judgement is very sad indeed.

Exactly. How anyone can call any of this clever and applaud the Israeli Government is beyond me. I found it harrowing listening to the surgeon who said he had never in his 25 years had to remove so many eyes. Anthony Blinken is back and forth to the Middle East with his diplomacy, he may as well spit in the wind.

If Israel did do this atrocity, they are godless people. Is that what the Jewish faith is?
The surgeon operating lost count of the eyes he removed from teenagers, the devastating maiming of them, those devices went of in pockets you can imagine what that did to those young men. How could anyone do that.
I think of my young grandsons starting out on life and weep for those victim's. This is not the work God fearing people, its the the work of pure evil.

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LaCrepescule
What would you suggest to resolve the situation?
Leaders from all sides get together round the table and talk it out?
Negotiators have been talking more or less for a year now and nothing has been achieved, in fact the situation is worse.

Allsorts
The Heathans who committed the atrocities on 7th October had a god. Where was he that night?

David49 that is clearly untrue.Israel has been landgrabbing ,from Palestinians for decades,they imprison CHILDREN for throwing stones at tanks and leave the in jail for years they have treated the Palestinian people with disdain and contempt ,millions herded in a tiny space.
Would YOU live like this and watch landyour family had farmed for centuries SETTLED by Israelis? Quite frankly I find the comments on here appalling .Israel gets away with genocide while the world looks an and like the knitters at the guillotine talk utter rubbish.
This falls straight onto the west who mistakenly,or deliberately set up the State of Israel WITHOUT proper care.Balfour admitted it himself.There should have been a two state solution from the start .Now ISRAELis planning what can be built on the lland they,ve freed up in Gaza by committing genocide and guess what they are getting away with it again.
We all know the loss thy suffered ,and the world was on their side during and after WW11 BUT surely they cant play the victim card for ever.Time moves on and they must be brought to book for these vile war crimes.
As to the folk who write of collateral damage on here.they are sick individuals,modern warfare doesn't have to destroy homes and kill children it can be much more targetted,Israel has blanket bombed these people because they want to wipe them out.The river to the sea is often quoted as being used against the jews when in reality we see it being used BY them.
My friends lost everything during a landgrab 30+ years ago .nothing was done to stop it than and no one will stop Netanyahu now .We should ALL be very ashamed

Petra, Netanyahu doesn’t want to talk. He’s an evil despot with not an ounce of compassion. And if you have to use the word heathen (who are you to decide which God is the right one,) at least spell it correctly.
paddyann54, agree entirely with your considered and factual post. I read the same thing about Balfour yesterday.

Allsorts

If Israel did do this atrocity, they are godless people. Is that what the Jewish faith is?
The surgeon operating lost count of the eyes he removed from teenagers, the devastating maiming of them, those devices went of in pockets you can imagine what that did to those young men. How could anyone do that.
I think of my young grandsons starting out on life and weep for those victim's. This is not the work God fearing people, its the the work of pure evil.

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You are forgetting about their opponents who cam in the night last October and murdered, raped and kidnapped young people enjoying a music festival and men, women and children asleep in their beds.

There is a complex sharing of atrocities or even, even stevening of atrocities between these two warring groups.

Petra
The Heathans who committed the atrocities on 7th October had a god. Where was he that night?

God has nothing to do with it. Both Christians and jews look to the old testament and that makes it clear that once Adam and Eve ate of the apple they were sent out of heaven and given free will to make their own way in the world. Posession of free will means that they are left to themselves and God does not interfere.

However it always helps winning sides when they can claim that God is on their side.

I think some in the media seem to be describing this as terrorism. Terrorism deliberately targets innocent people.

The targets of this operation were clearly Hezbollah operatives.
If Israel had used traditional warfare methods to reach the same number of Hezbollah operatives, the number of civilian casualties would have been exponentially higher.

This is close to being the textbook definition of a precision strike.

One benefit is that Beirut is not going to have to be rebuilt again for a while. I wonder how many people there have died in this conflict?
Starmer seems to have stepped back from the previous government’s position on supporting Israel. Therefore any influence we might have had to bring about any sort of resolution has probably gone. Hopeless.

Allsorts

If Israel did do this atrocity, they are godless people. Is that what the Jewish faith is?
The surgeon operating lost count of the eyes he removed from teenagers, the devastating maiming of them, those devices went of in pockets you can imagine what that did to those young men. How could anyone do that.
I think of my young grandsons starting out on life and weep for those victim's. This is not the work God fearing people, its the the work of pure evil.

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I agree Allsorts

As I said I DESPISE Israel I dont support them.

This sums up the situation as I see it continuing.

They WILL fight to preserve the State of Israel they have a large enough army to control terrorists, the US and others will provide enough weapons do that.

The risk is Iran getting directly involved, this is what Hamas wants, if that happens nuclear weapons will be used, then deaths will be counted in millions. They are already a pariah state so nothing to loose. However the US will do whatever it takes to prevent that happening, let’s hope that are successful.

Hamas can give up now and stop the killing, but to them every death is a martyr

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Israel is clearly a terrorist state. More and more people are waking up to this fact and not falling for the lies anymore.
Their excuses for slaughtering the good and the innocent are wearing very thin indeed. I feel sorry for the many Israelis and Jews who abhore Netanyahu and his despicable government.

LaCrepescule I don’t think outsiders have understood that Netanyahu will never give in. This war can last for many years. Many more lives will be lost.

Do any of you understand that Hezbollah and Hamas want to wipe out Jews?

Imagine living with such threat.

I'm baffled how we're siding with terrorists.

Again , how many Jewish terrorists have committed these atrocities we know about? 9/11, 7/7, Madrid , Paris, Arianna Grande, the failed attack on Taylor Swift concerts in Austria?

The west isn't loved by the middle east.

As for talks. You say Netanyahu doesn't want to talk. How can they talk? Hamas wants to wipe out Israel and the Jewish race. What are they going to talk about?

As I said I DESPISE Israel I dont support them.

You DESPISE Israel, David.

What a ridiculous thing to say

Who is siding with terrorists? I've repeatedly said that it is possible to condemn all acts of terrorism by Hezbollah and Hamas, while still expressing sympathy for the innocent victims who have been caught up in these latest attacks.

ronib

LaCrepescule I don’t think outsiders have understood that Netanyahu will never give in. This war can last for many years. Many more lives will be lost.

Yes they will fight it’s not Netenyahu any replacement will be the same, it will last as long as Israel is attacked.

Rekarie

*As I said I DESPISE Israel I dont support them.*

You DESPISE Israel, David.

What a ridiculous thing to say

I despise them for the way they treat Palestinians, but that does not justify Hamas causing the death of 40000 civilians so far.

Galaxy

As I said that 'empathy' will get us all killed.

Escalating war and terrorism will get us all killed in the end.