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Sago Tue 24-Sept-24 21:47:02

So this is the biggest gaff any PM has ever made.

Sausages…. hostages how?

LizzieDrip Wed 25-Sept-24 13:52:45

Guests are arriving for Boris and Carrie Johnson’s wedding bash at the grand Cotswolds estate of a major Tory donor

But that was good ‘ol BoJo … so that’s ok!

Rekarie Wed 25-Sept-24 13:53:50

Well you accused me of not knowing facts, Cossy. Glad to see you admit it.

Of course no money changed hands. Do you know how donation works?

Rekarie Wed 25-Sept-24 13:56:35

Close to Godwin's Law there, growstuff!

escaped Wed 25-Sept-24 13:58:20

Someone said this isn't big news earlier. I am abroad, and today the gaffe has trickled into foreign papers too.

Cossy Wed 25-Sept-24 14:01:09

Rekarie

Oh give over, LizzieDrip! Who are you to tell me what I do?

And I actually heard Keir Starmer explaining this to a Radio 4 journalist.

Believe me, the Sky headline basically came from the horse's mouth.

Go and listen to it

“https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn9d17ljlvro.amp”

“He declared Lord Alli had donated several weeks' accommodation, which is recorded as being worth more than £20,000, in the register of MPs' interests.
Sir Keir told BBC Radio 5 Live: "I had promised him faithfully that I would give him an environment in which he could calmly get on, his one chance to do his GCSEs, and therefore we relocated somewhere else - a gift which we then allocated a sum of money to.

Sir Keir told the BBC Today programme: "Somebody then offered me accommodation where we could do that, and I took it up. And it was the right thing to do. It didn't cost the taxpayer a penny."
He said he felt passionately about the issue, admitting that for his daughter, who is 13, and his son, the situation was difficult.
"Sometimes what sits behind these are human explanations," he told BBC 5 Live, particularly in the "hurly burly" of an election campaign - but things had changed now Labour was in government.

He told Today's Nick Robinson that he'd accepted the donation for clothing in opposition, during a "busy election campaign".

Just stop now, Starmer was NOT PM when the “gifts” were accepted. The accommodation wasn’t “paid for” so no £20,000+ was passed across to him. It was “costed” as are all “gifts” for declaration purposes prior to him actually becoming PM.

It could not be clearer!

Cossy Wed 25-Sept-24 14:01:43

Rekarie

Well you accused me of not knowing facts, Cossy. Glad to see you admit it.

Of course no money changed hands. Do you know how donation works?

Do you?

MissAdventure Wed 25-Sept-24 14:02:39

It didn't cost the tax payer a penny.
So, what's the actual problem??

Cossy Wed 25-Sept-24 14:05:03

LizzieDrip

^Guests are arriving for Boris and Carrie Johnson’s wedding bash at the grand Cotswolds estate of a major Tory donor^

But that was good ‘ol BoJo … so that’s ok!

Of course it’s OK! Everything the Tories did was ok and totally justified.

Everything the LP is doing is utterly evil, wrong and hypocritical!

We simply need to accept that and move on!

Also, those constantly slating the LP don’t need to be so terribly rude to those of us defending them.

There’s political allegiance and there’s sheer bad manners and rudeness.

We can debate with rudeness and personal insults.

We are all well educated older women (in the main)

FGG give the LP a chance.

Cossy Wed 25-Sept-24 14:06:17

That should read, of course, “we can debate WITHOUT….”

So need and desire an edit key!!

MissAdventure Wed 25-Sept-24 14:07:52

Oh bum!!
I thought we were in for a "free for all" grin

LizzieDrip Wed 25-Sept-24 14:08:17

Ah, MissAdventure, the problem for the right wing media and their followers on GN is not really the act itself … it because it’s Keir Starmer!

In reality, someone who Keir Starmer knows let him use his apartment - big deal🤷‍♀️

Anniebach Wed 25-Sept-24 14:10:26

Quote MissAdventure Wed 25-Sep-24 14:02:39
It didn't cost the tax payer a penny. Quote MissAdventure Wed 25-Sep-24 14:02:39
It didn't cost the tax payer a penny.

The problem is , a Labour PM, the fact is he is Labour not conservative

Cossy Wed 25-Sept-24 14:11:22

MissAdventure

Oh bum!!
I thought we were in for a "free for all" grin

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

GrannyGravy13 Wed 25-Sept-24 14:11:43

Cossy

LizzieDrip

Guests are arriving for Boris and Carrie Johnson’s wedding bash at the grand Cotswolds estate of a major Tory donor

But that was good ‘ol BoJo … so that’s ok!

Of course it’s OK! Everything the Tories did was ok and totally justified.

Everything the LP is doing is utterly evil, wrong and hypocritical!

We simply need to accept that and move on!

Also, those constantly slating the LP don’t need to be so terribly rude to those of us defending them.

There’s political allegiance and there’s sheer bad manners and rudeness.

We can debate with rudeness and personal insults.

We are all well educated older women (in the main)

FGG give the LP a chance.

Just done a quick GN search, there were multiple threads having a go at the Johnson’s wedding arrangements.

Selective memory?

MissAdventure Wed 25-Sept-24 14:13:57

Nope.
I genuinely couldn't find all the multiple threads criticising boris.
Not even the wedding one.

Diplomat Wed 25-Sept-24 14:15:01

Cosy and LizzyDrip, I would also like to go on about gifts of clothes, football invitations, private schooling, taking pensioners winter fuel allowance.....I'll be back with more.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 25-Sept-24 14:21:41

MissAdventure

Nope.
I genuinely couldn't find all the multiple threads criticising boris.
Not even the wedding one.

www.gransnet.com/forums/chat/1296462-Boris-and-Carrie-have-got-married

GrannyGravy13 Wed 25-Sept-24 14:21:56

Here’s one of them.

LizzieDrip Wed 25-Sept-24 14:22:39

Can’t wait Diplomat … bring it on🤣

MissAdventure Wed 25-Sept-24 14:26:49

Thanks grannyGravy but it's not overly critical from what I can see.

I didnt read it all, but a lot of it was talking about other people, other events.
Quite a few congratulations, and some "is it for tax purposes"?
Nothing like the roasting Starmer is getting.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 25-Sept-24 14:27:40

MissAdventure

Nope.
I genuinely couldn't find all the multiple threads criticising boris.
Not even the wedding one.

If you look at any of the political threads during his tenure of No.10 the criticism is constant and at times vitriolic, especially any relating to Brexit.

MissAdventure Wed 25-Sept-24 14:30:52

Yes, they probably are, I guess.

The wedding one focuses mainly on Catholicism, and whether adulterers can be married in a catholic church.

Wishing Carrie good luck, and one in the eye for Cummings.

Casdon Wed 25-Sept-24 14:37:10

GrannyGravy13

MissAdventure

Nope.
I genuinely couldn't find all the multiple threads criticising boris.
Not even the wedding one.

www.gransnet.com/forums/chat/1296462-Boris-and-Carrie-have-got-married

It’s worth reading this, to see that the pitch battles on Gransnet were just the same three years ago as they are now - many of the same people, although some now have different names. I don’t think anybody has forgotten what they said before, it’s just that it’s a different game in the same league now, the rules are exactly the same, as are the accusations between the factions. It’s actually funny if you think about it.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 25-Sept-24 14:38:10

MissAdventure

Yes, they probably are, I guess.

The wedding one focuses mainly on Catholicism, and whether adulterers can be married in a catholic church.

Wishing Carrie good luck, and one in the eye for Cummings.

There are others, I just put that one up as an example.

I am neither for or against Sir Starmer, I hope he succeeds at the top job, because if he doesn’t we are all well and truly in the brown stuff 💩

MissAdventure Wed 25-Sept-24 14:39:52

Without a paddle, for sure. 🚣‍♀️