Trump is just nuts. I wonder if he has dementia or a personality disorder, either way he is not right.
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With only 3 weeks to go, perhaps we can start to watch the shenanigans taking place in the USA.
Trump is warning America of his intention post election.
“Donald Trump has provoked an angry backlash from Democrats after calling for the US armed forces to be turned against his political adversaries when voters go to the polls at next month’s presidential election.
In comments that added further fuel to fears of an authoritarian crackdown if he recaptures the White House, the Republican nominee said the military or national guard should be deployed against opponents that he called “the enemy within” when the election takes place on 5 November.
He singled out the California congressman, Adam Schiff, who was the lead prosecutor in the ex-president’s first impeachment trial, as posing a bigger threat to a free and fair election than foreign terrorists or illegal immigrants, his usual prime target for abuse.
Trump’s comments, to Fox News in response to a question on possible election “chaos”, triggered an angry reaction from Kamala Harris’s campaign, which likened them to previous remarks that he would be a dictator “on day one” of a second presidency and his suggestions that the US constitution should be terminated to overturn the 2020 election result, which he falsely claims was stolen by Joe Biden”.
Trump is just nuts. I wonder if he has dementia or a personality disorder, either way he is not right.
both allsorts
I’m not looking forward to that fat manicured finger on the nuclear button once again, I mean Trump in case you hadn’t guessed.
Allsorts
Trump is just nuts. I wonder if he has dementia or a personality disorder, either way he is not right.
I think he is a narcissist with dementia and needs to be kept in a dark room on heavy duty meds for the sake of all of us.
Musk too. Both very odd and dangerous individuals who shouldn't be allowed to drive a car let alone run the US.
Perhaps Musk will develop a new spacecraft and he and Trump could zoom off in it to explore the Kuiper Belt.
Take their hatred with them on a long trip...
Wyllow3
Take their hatred with them on a long trip...
I understand that there are some interesting black holes which need further exploration 
After lunch I read an interesting new pieces in the Economist.
"Kamala Harris moves ahead—just—in our final election forecast.
IN THE FINAL update of The Economist’s statistical forecast of America’s presidential election, Kamala Harris’s chances of winning rose from 50% to 56%. Her newfound lead is small enough that it can barely be called a lead at all, and it would be no surprise if Donald Trump wins by a decisive margin. But Ms Harris is widely seen to have had a stronger week to end the campaign than Mr Trump did, and the last batch of polls to enter our model bears that out.
Of the 67 surveys released yesterday, 44 gave Ms Harris better numbers than our forecast previously expected. The data looked particularly rosy for her in the Rust Belt. She led by an average of one percentage point in six polls of Pennsylvania, the most likely decisive state, and by the same amount in five surveys of Wisconsin. In Michigan, her strongest swing state, five polls put her up by two points on average.
On the surface, surveys of the Sun Belt swing states looked less impressive for the vice-president, showing her trailing by one to two points on average in Arizona, Georgia, Nevada and North Carolina. However, these results were better for Ms Harris than were earlier polls of these states by the same firms. In particular, AtlasIntel, whose surveys have tended to inflate Mr Trump’s margins by 2.4 percentage points, published 13 polls yesterday with results that were much closer to the consensus than its norm.
After accounting for such “house effects”, Arizona, Georgia and North Carolina (but not Nevada) showed the same pattern as the northern swing states: Ms Harris’s margins in these final polls exceeded our model’s prior estimates by about one percentage point in all six. If these surveys had entered our forecast a month ago, her win probability would have risen only modestly. But because there is no time left before the election, our model reacts sharply to new data, lest it miss “late movement” like Mr Trump’s surge in November 2016.
The other factor that pushed our forecast towards Ms Harris today was a striking poll published by students and faculty at Dartmouth College. It gave the Democratic nominee a whopping 28-percentage-point lead in New Hampshire, dwarfing the five-point margin that our model previously expected in the state. An earlier survey by the same team found a 21-point lead for Ms Harris, and our forecast’s house-effects adjustment counteracts some of this apparent bias, shifting the results by nine points towards Mr Trump. Even a hefty nine points, however, may not be sufficient to compensate for such an implausibly pro-Democrat sample.
New Hampshire has almost no chance to decide the election. However, our forecast pools information across states, meaning that the Dartmouth survey also improves our predictions for Ms Harris by a tiny amount in swing states. Models like ours can try to account for dubious polls, but they are ultimately only as good as the data they ingest."
Correction: piece in The (silly auto correct)
The first results are in with Dixville Hatch in New Hampshire polling as follows -
6 voters
3 for Harris
3 for Trump
(I think that's a 100% turnout) 
A microcosm of the US?
ferry23
The first results are in with Dixville Hatch in New Hampshire polling as follows -
6 voters
3 for Harris
3 for Trump
(I think that's a 100% turnout)
A microcosm of the US?
I loved their handmade notice to announce the results, good to see the human side.
Now there are twenty states that have put the National Guard soldiers on stand by. I don't think we will know the results for days.
What time did the polls close then? I'd have expected New Hampshire to be more or less 5 hours behind GMT like New York - so at our 6.00 p.m about 1 o'clock in the afternoon??? Where have I gone wrong?
Every brief news coverage I’ve heard today has mentioned the gender divide. Women much more likely to vote Harris, many influenced by the abortion issues which imo whatever our personal beliefs are medieval when a child pregnant by incest rape aged 10 is expected to deliver her baby.
Worryingly, young men are more likely to vote Trump - the are attracted by his macho presentation. Needless to say, unwanted pregnancies are not their concern
Talk about one step forward three steps back
winterwhite
What time did the polls close then? I'd have expected New Hampshire to be more or less 5 hours behind GMT like New York - so at our 6.00 p.m about 1 o'clock in the afternoon??? Where have I gone wrong?
You haven't!
There are just 6 registered voters, and they all voted early. And I would guess it didn't take long to do the count.
Presumably if everyone registered to vote has done so, they can declare.
Iam64
Every brief news coverage I’ve heard today has mentioned the gender divide. Women much more likely to vote Harris, many influenced by the abortion issues which imo whatever our personal beliefs are medieval when a child pregnant by incest rape aged 10 is expected to deliver her baby.
Worryingly, young men are more likely to vote Trump - the are attracted by his macho presentation. Needless to say, unwanted pregnancies are not their concern
Talk about one step forward three steps back
Absolutely.
Large swathes of the US still operate as an over-reaching patriarchal society. Sadly they've got a bit of a way to go when it comes to equality.
Women are under represented in high government roles. Interestingly, the highest percentage of women in Cabinet posts came under both the Clinton and Obama administrations and the current Biden administration. All with politically savvy and high achieving wives - that could be a coincidence, but make of it what you will.
I view Clinton as a creepy man, certsinly not at the forefront of feminism.
My prediction is Harris win, by quite a bit. I have used no scientific method or even looked at the polls 
There are no teleprompters at debates between candidates, for obvious reasons. If you doubt Harris's ability to reason and to speak in comprehensible sentences, please watch the debate between her and Trump. It starts about 6 minutes in.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgsC_aBquUE
I'm biased, I admit, but . . . I think she wiped the floor with him. It was generally conceded that she won the debate. He SAID he won, but he would, wouldn't he? If he actually believed he had won he would have been eager to debate her again. He wasn't.
It may be some days before we know who the next President may be, but some of Trump's little flunkies are threatening civil war if he doesn't get elected. That seems to suggest that those who opposed Trump and the powers that be haven't learned anything from the January 6 riot. I wouldn't bet on it.
No one has been reporting on this, for good reason, but my guess is that the current administration has made very good plans for dealing with illegal / violent unrest that may come after the election. Protests are one thing, violence is another. I believe that most Trump supporters aren't wild to shoot Democrats; they just want him elected, not to kill people who may have voted against him. If there is violent unrest, well, Biden may be less than able, but do Trump's more violence-prone admirers seriously imagine that the current President is incapable of summoning the National Guard and Armed Forces to combat illegal unrest? I hope it won't come to that, of course.
Yes: ora pro nobis: pray for us. Pray for peace, if nothing else.
I just have to comment on Trump as a patriarchal leader. Sheesh. He's a fat, out of shape man who wears a lot of makeup, swears a lot, thinks is okay to grab women by the genitals, and has recently made statements about a well-known American golfer had big genitals.
We've got an older crowd here: do you happen to know any men who fought in WWII? What would they have thought of Donald Trump? I'm thinking of two strong silent men: my dad, who volunteered to do espionage in South America even before the US entered the war, in hopes of reducing the number of U-Boat hits on ships traveling to the UK from Rio and Buenos Aires--not exactly a desk job; he came close to death. more than once, and ended up a POW. I'm thinking of my father-in-law, later, once the US was in the war; he was on troop ships traveling to the UK, training men who were going to D-Day, dodging U-Boats. It's impossible for me to imagine either of them having anything but contempt for a man who wears makeup, period; both of them were Republicans, but they would have been appalled by a candidate who behaves like Trump in general, and talking about another man's genitals would have just CAPPED it. They had dignity and were courageous and were quick to judge. I doubt they'd have voted for a woman, but think they'd have stayed home from the polls.
Bizarre?!
I'be been following CNN all day on and off and glad its mostly been peaceful (there was a faux bomb threat in a mainly black area of Atlanta) designed to keep voters, after a dodgy SM post,
but it was checked out and cleared so rapidly it made me realise as Nmama said there is backup for any trouble.
The FBIhas released a statement, saying it is "aware of bomb threats to polling locations in several states, many of which appear to originate from Russian email domains".
"None of the threats have been determined to be credible thus far. Election integrity is among the FBI's highest priorities," the agency added.
From Sky News.
winterwhite
What time did the polls close then? I'd have expected New Hampshire to be more or less 5 hours behind GMT like New York - so at our 6.00 p.m about 1 o'clock in the afternoon??? Where have I gone wrong?
Most polls in each close at 7 pm. In this case, since 100% of their registered voters had voted, they can call the election. You will see the Eastern Standard Time states start reporting polling results after 7 pm EST. London is 5 hours ahead of New York.
IMO I think the only way we will know today is if the people in reliably Red states flip blue and we do not have to rely on the swing states. I think we will be looking at Iowa and Kansas for out of norm results. Maybe Montana.
Of course, that is speculation on my part based on what I am seeing and reading online and talking to people. LOTS of people are tired of Trump here, even previous supporters.
We will see.
If you are awake around the world and want to watch the polls closing, here are the times they close by state.
www.yahoo.com/news/election-day-voting-poll-closing-times-tonight-by-state--plus-key-swing-states-to-watch-123946665.html
I’m having to hide from it and am just watching Sky Arts etc. If I turn the news on I just see and hear Trump and I can’t stand it. At the same time I’m terrified of what might happen in America he does lose. How can something like this be happening? How can anyone vote for him?
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