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Whitewavemark2 Tue 15-Oct-24 07:18:42

With only 3 weeks to go, perhaps we can start to watch the shenanigans taking place in the USA.

Trump is warning America of his intention post election.

“Donald Trump has provoked an angry backlash from Democrats after calling for the US armed forces to be turned against his political adversaries when voters go to the polls at next month’s presidential election.
In comments that added further fuel to fears of an authoritarian crackdown if he recaptures the White House, the Republican nominee said the military or national guard should be deployed against opponents that he called “the enemy within” when the election takes place on 5 November.
He singled out the California congressman, Adam Schiff, who was the lead prosecutor in the ex-president’s first impeachment trial, as posing a bigger threat to a free and fair election than foreign terrorists or illegal immigrants, his usual prime target for abuse.
Trump’s comments, to Fox News in response to a question on possible election “chaos”, triggered an angry reaction from Kamala Harris’s campaign, which likened them to previous remarks that he would be a dictator “on day one” of a second presidency and his suggestions that the US constitution should be terminated to overturn the 2020 election result, which he falsely claims was stolen by Joe Biden”.

Allira Tue 05-Nov-24 22:33:35

MayBee70

I’m having to hide from it and am just watching Sky Arts etc. If I turn the news on I just see and hear Trump and I can’t stand it. At the same time I’m terrified of what might happen in America he does lose. How can something like this be happening? How can anyone vote for him?

I'm off to bed to read my book.
It's a rather strange book but not as strange as what's going on over there.
Every time he opens his mouth he sounds as mad as a box of frogs.

Nmama Tue 05-Nov-24 23:09:12

I have spent a lot of time NOT asking my Trump-loving relatives why they want to vote for him, so I can't answer the question "Why would anyone vote for him?" I love some people whose politics are very different from my own, and even more incomprehensibly, they love me.

FBI agents tend to be Republican, but they also tend to think a lot of law and order (to put it mildly). I think they are among a number of government bodies who are very interested in ensuring a peaceful transition of power.

NotSpaghetti Tue 05-Nov-24 23:42:15

Is anyone else watching this:

www.youtube.com/live/sAmC9FDX4aE?si=x2jwhd5Uxnuh0gTJ

It's the live "The Rest is Politics - America Decides"?

Really interesting discussions with interesting and knowledgeable guests.

Wyllow3 Wed 06-Nov-24 00:11:00

Watching Sky on and off.

NotSpaghetti Wed 06-Nov-24 00:28:11

Not back on now 'till 5am.

Bea65 Wed 06-Nov-24 00:30:48

I’ve got Sky on mute… ugh orange man 23

Freshair Wed 06-Nov-24 02:03:17

It'll be Trump won't it. Not good

nanna8 Wed 06-Nov-24 02:17:15

Interesting. We are watching it live here in Australia. Too early yet,though.

Syracute Wed 06-Nov-24 02:27:30

Freshair

It'll be Trump won't it. Not good

Way too soon for that claim !

NotSpaghetti Wed 06-Nov-24 03:39:00

Almost certainly a win for Trump now.
I believe this is because of his hostile anti-immigration stance.
It feels like Brexit to me.

imaround Wed 06-Nov-24 03:56:27

I am sick. Even in the slim chance she pulls it out, the number of people who voted for this man disgusts me. Women voted for this.

Please pray for our daughters.

mae13 Wed 06-Nov-24 04:15:17

If Trump wins and then dies in office (because that is NOT a well man) then the highly mysoginistic Vance will be running the US.
Is American politics existing in some kind of unknown paralell universe, totally disconnected from sanity?

mae13 Wed 06-Nov-24 04:20:23

imaround

I am sick. Even in the slim chance she pulls it out, the number of people who voted for this man disgusts me. Women voted for this.

Please pray for our daughters.

It may take much more than prayers - Trump and the appalling Vance will have the women of America compelled to wear Burkhas, if they have their way. And that is NOT as far-fetched as it may seem - the curtailment of women's hard-won freedoms will definitely be on the agenda......

foxie48 Wed 06-Nov-24 04:28:50

I'm feeling very depressed but I think what we're witnessing the result of a poor education system and a huge disparity between the rich and the poor. I'm afraid it also demonstrates the inherent sexism and racism in the US. This is a very sad time for the world but I haven't completely lost hope ( yet).

growstuff Wed 06-Nov-24 04:30:41

foxie48

I'm feeling very depressed but I think what we're witnessing the result of a poor education system and a huge disparity between the rich and the poor. I'm afraid it also demonstrates the inherent sexism and racism in the US. This is a very sad time for the world but I haven't completely lost hope ( yet).

That's how I feel. It's depressing that the alleged "leader of the free world" is going this way.

nanna8 Wed 06-Nov-24 04:49:48

I think there are many things at play here. You really can’t condemn a massive slice of the American population because of the way they vote. Best to try to understand rather than look down on them from a European perspective.

NotSpaghetti Wed 06-Nov-24 05:00:55

Trump has been appealing to younger men (who feel disenfranchised?)

What a mess.
🤕

grandMattie Wed 06-Nov-24 05:28:02

Scylla and Charybdis spring to mind…

Ladyleftfieldlover Wed 06-Nov-24 05:33:31

Unbelievable. I am thoroughly dismayed.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 06-Nov-24 05:44:20

After watching and listening over the past few weeks I’m not a bit surprised.

Democrats all around the world must listen and learn the lesson that vast inequality in wealth, health and education, which is getting wider, will produce leaders like Trump.

Listen to the ordinary folk!

Goodness knows how the world will deal with this, but all the authoritarian figures must be full of glee.

Utterly depressing.

Nmama Wed 06-Nov-24 06:18:31

Shoot me now.

growstuff Wed 06-Nov-24 06:23:47

nanna8

I think there are many things at play here. You really can’t condemn a massive slice of the American population because of the way they vote. Best to try to understand rather than look down on them from a European perspective.

Understanding 'why' doesn't override feelings of dismay for the effect it will have on the whole world. Moreover, it's not just the US which is producing this kind of result. I fear for the future - my future, the future of my children and their children - until the wheels of history turn a full circle.

Galaxy Wed 06-Nov-24 06:29:05

Did calling people stupid and nazis not work again. Who can believe it.
Mind I probably need not to take up a career in election predictions.

David49 Wed 06-Nov-24 06:36:13

It looks like the republicans have won, despite Trump, if they had had a more appealing candidate it probably would have been more decisive. Im surprised that more women didn’t turn out to vote for Harris.

Don’t worry the world is not going to end, that is emotional rubbish, it didnt end in 2016, if anything the US is likely to be more inward looking. Zelensky is not going to be pleased because Trump has been very non commital on Ukraine.

growstuff Wed 06-Nov-24 06:40:55

David49

It looks like the republicans have won, despite Trump, if they had had a more appealing candidate it probably would have been more decisive. Im surprised that more women didn’t turn out to vote for Harris.

Don’t worry the world is not going to end, that is emotional rubbish, it didnt end in 2016, if anything the US is likely to be more inward looking. Zelensky is not going to be pleased because Trump has been very non commital on Ukraine.

No, I don't think the world will end, but IMO it will be a far less desirable place. As far as I know, I am still allowed to express an opinion.