With only 3 weeks to go, perhaps we can start to watch the shenanigans taking place in the USA.
Trump is warning America of his intention post election.
“Donald Trump has provoked an angry backlash from Democrats after calling for the US armed forces to be turned against his political adversaries when voters go to the polls at next month’s presidential election.
In comments that added further fuel to fears of an authoritarian crackdown if he recaptures the White House, the Republican nominee said the military or national guard should be deployed against opponents that he called “the enemy within” when the election takes place on 5 November.
He singled out the California congressman, Adam Schiff, who was the lead prosecutor in the ex-president’s first impeachment trial, as posing a bigger threat to a free and fair election than foreign terrorists or illegal immigrants, his usual prime target for abuse.
Trump’s comments, to Fox News in response to a question on possible election “chaos”, triggered an angry reaction from Kamala Harris’s campaign, which likened them to previous remarks that he would be a dictator “on day one” of a second presidency and his suggestions that the US constitution should be terminated to overturn the 2020 election result, which he falsely claims was stolen by Joe Biden”.
Galaxy
Did calling people stupid and nazis not work again. Who can believe it.
Mind I probably need not to take up a career in election predictions.
What about those who didn't call people stupid and/or Nazis? Are they not allowed to express any kind of opinion? Some people base their opinions on policies rather than childish name-calling.
I worry for Ukraine
I worry for Climate change
I worry for the potential of mass incarceration and deportation.
I worry for democracy.
NotSpaghetti
Trump has been appealing to younger men (who feel disenfranchised?)
What a mess.
🤕
People disregard them at their peril.
Whitewavemark2
I worry for Ukraine
I worry for Climate change
I worry for the potential of mass incarceration and deportation.
I worry for democracy.
We will have to wait and see.
We may not have to wait long, I am guessing.
Whitewavemark2
After watching and listening over the past few weeks I’m not a bit surprised.
Democrats all around the world must listen and learn the lesson that vast inequality in wealth, health and education, which is getting wider, will produce leaders like Trump.
Listen to the ordinary folk!
Goodness knows how the world will deal with this, but all the authoritarian figures must be full of glee.
Utterly depressing.
Your second paragraph.
May not be the moment now, but could you explain more about it sometime, please?
What I think and hope will happen is that Europe will now be forced to become independent of the USA and be stronger as a result because it will understand that it must entirely stand up for itself.
I fully expect that the U.K. will be part of this coalition.
Apart from wars[which I agree is a huge issue], does the US have as much influence over the rest of the world, as some say?
I could be very wrong.
growstuff
David49
It looks like the republicans have won, despite Trump, if they had had a more appealing candidate it probably would have been more decisive. Im surprised that more women didn’t turn out to vote for Harris.
Don’t worry the world is not going to end, that is emotional rubbish, it didnt end in 2016, if anything the US is likely to be more inward looking. Zelensky is not going to be pleased because Trump has been very non commital on Ukraine.No, I don't think the world will end, but IMO it will be a far less desirable place. As far as I know, I am still allowed to express an opinion.
My worry about Harris winning was that the US would drag Europe into the Ukraine War, otherwise I’m not expecting any change affecting the UK. What they do in another country is no concern of mine, at least the US is democratic.
I am not in the least bit surprised.
Whitewavemark2
What I think and hope will happen is that Europe will now be forced to become independent of the USA and be stronger as a result because it will understand that it must entirely stand up for itself.
I fully expect that the U.K. will be part of this coalition.
How are they not independent?
I realise I may be very ignorant on this.
Whitewavemark2
What I think and hope will happen is that Europe will now be forced to become independent of the USA and be stronger as a result because it will understand that it must entirely stand up for itself.
I fully expect that the U.K. will be part of this coalition.
Yes, Europe stepping up, not hanging onto US coat tails would be good, don’t underestimate the cost of having a credible deterrent to Russia
I worry for Ukraine
Even the Trump supporter I know, and I know next to none as far as I know, is concerned about Ukraine, if it turned out to be a Trump win.
Looks like Trump is winning 😣
fancythat
Apart from wars[which I agree is a huge issue], does the US have as much influence over the rest of the world, as some say?
I could be very wrong.
It still has a financial influence. It's estimated that Trump's protectionism will negatively affect the UK's growth. Not only that, but the rest of the world is influenced by ideas - especially conspiracy theories - which originate in the US and are spread on US-controlled social media.
David49
Whitewavemark2
What I think and hope will happen is that Europe will now be forced to become independent of the USA and be stronger as a result because it will understand that it must entirely stand up for itself.
I fully expect that the U.K. will be part of this coalition.Yes, Europe stepping up, not hanging onto US coat tails would be good, don’t underestimate the cost of having a credible deterrent to Russia
Not just Russia.
David49
growstuff
David49
It looks like the republicans have won, despite Trump, if they had had a more appealing candidate it probably would have been more decisive. Im surprised that more women didn’t turn out to vote for Harris.
Don’t worry the world is not going to end, that is emotional rubbish, it didnt end in 2016, if anything the US is likely to be more inward looking. Zelensky is not going to be pleased because Trump has been very non commital on Ukraine.No, I don't think the world will end, but IMO it will be a far less desirable place. As far as I know, I am still allowed to express an opinion.
My worry about Harris winning was that the US would drag Europe into the Ukraine War, otherwise I’m not expecting any change affecting the UK. What they do in another country is no concern of mine, at least the US is democratic.
Democracy in the US (as in other so-called democracies) is questionable.
GrannyGravy13
I am not in the least bit surprised.
Neither am I - unfortunately.
Yes I think Taiwan must see this as a disaster.
Yay! 😁😁😁
He did it! I knew he would!
Galaxy
Did calling people stupid and nazis not work again. Who can believe it.
Mind I probably need not to take up a career in election predictions.
This.
Watching Ch 4 earlier they were almost apoplectic. Most strange.
That's democracy.
Not one bit surprised. I put a bet on him to win last time and I did the same this time. Not because I support him but I understand human nature.
As Clinton once said: it’s the economy, stupid. Plus, the Democrats ( and the Labour Party here) have taken the ethnic peoples vote for granted.
Now it’s well and truely come back to bite them in the arse big time.
I worry for democracy.
Er this was democracy.
It isnt a personal attack on you growstuff,it is a comment on the failure of the opposition.
Galaxy
I worry for democracy.
Er this was democracy.
Have you heard of plan 2025?
Very disappointed at the likely result. Feel so sad for the women of America especially. It’s such a divided country and those divisions are only going to get deeper.
If only we were still part of the EU, I would be less concerned about how a Trump presidency would affect us economically. But Brexit came about as the result of a democratic process in a deeply divided nation.
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