Will Messrs Reeves and Raynor Still Be Around This Time Next Year?

Women’s aspirations changed during the Second World War though Allira, many tasted the freedom and financial reward of work, and were deeply resentful after the war if circumstances forced them back into full time. Housekeeping and child rearing. That marked the first move to the society we have now.

I can remember when my grandson just came to live with me, that I should apply for jobs with a 90 minute commute, each way.

MaizieD

^People seem to forget that attitudes to bringing up children change all the time and that it was quite rare before WW2 for children to be brought up in a family with a parent who didn't do any work.^

I'm a bit 🤔 about that statement, growstuff.

Teachers and others had to give up their jobs after marriage.

Yes, ronib women were needed to do "men's" jobs during WW2 and had to give them up when the men were demobbed.

I think that Alliria and I were more questioning the statement that pre WW2 it was unusual to be brought up in a family where one parent didn't work..

Though, historically, that may have been the case for children of poor parents who had to both work to make ends meet...

Lots of people on here have said that their mothers worked, as did they.

Teachers and others had to give up their jobs after marriage.

I think that was relaxed somewhat during the war. My mother, who married in 1939, taught all the way through WW2. I doubt if she kept her marriage secret for the whole 5 - 6 years...

MaizieD

^Teachers and others had to give up their jobs after marriage.^

I think that was relaxed somewhat during the war. My mother, who married in 1939, taught all the way through WW2. I doubt if she kept her marriage secret for the whole 5 - 6 years...

I meant before 1939 which is the time growstuff was referring to.

growstuff

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Younger children don't really need any more than 5 minutes at the start of the day to have a chat. Infact a lot of their interaction is physical puppy play, just excitement at being together. A quick burst is enough. This can be done at drop off time.

In your opinion!

There are, of course, children whose parents have to be at work before the start of the school day.

I really do wonder how my children and all the children who went to primary school with them ended up so well-balanced. If GNers were right, that really wouldn't be the case.

People seem to forget that attitudes to bringing up children change all the time and that it was quite rare before WW2 for children to be brought up in a family with a parent who didn't do any work.

In my many years experience!

But equally children who had a longer time to engage with each other were just as well-balanced. Did I say anywhere they weren't?

My situation was a bit different, but my children came into work with me at 7.30 am and went home with me at 6.30 pm. (Keyholder). Luckily my long-suffering staff coped admirably with my children bobbing about on the premises ostensibly helping their elders to set up the day's work!
We, as mother's, all do what we can under challenging circumstances.

PS my children are well balanced too, but they did know where the staff biscuit tin was kept, and weren't beyond emptying it, looking at me with wide innocent eyes when questioned! 👀

MissAdventure

Lots of people on here have said that their mothers worked, as did they.

Before WW2?

MissAdventure

Lots of people on here have said that their mothers worked, as did they.

As I wasn't alive pre WW2, and probably a good many of us weren't, then those working mothers weren't 'pre WW2'.

We, as mother's, all do what we can under challenging circumstances.
I remember going to work with my mother too.

Ronib, maybe you can cycle or walk everywhere but I can't. Don't even have a bus service I can access unless I walk 2 miles on a major road with no footpath. Would you like to show me how it's done?

Not pre ww2.
Just in response to the negativity about breakfast clubs.

I'm interested to learn who looked after the children of working mums and dads.

MissAdventure

Not pre ww2.
Just in response to the negativity about breakfast clubs.

I'm interested to learn who looked after the children of working mums and dads.

Do you mean in the 1950s/60s/70s or during WW2?

I think during WW2 many people lived near to where they grew up so perhaps like now, grandparents did the caring.

4allweknow don’t know where you live but some country folk do okay with a pony and trap? Alternatively I have nearly been mown down by adults ripping along on scooters. 2 miles on a major road without a footpath - well time to canvas your local council?

4allweknow don’t know where you live but some country folk do okay with a pony and trap?

I think, ladies, that we have a time traveller from the 1950s posting on out forum. 🤣

MaizieD haha. I did point out the dangers of pavement scooters…

I meant canvass of course …

In my opinion Labour got in on a load of lies, and false promises, he appeared to be a man for working people and was going to make us better off but so far he has made pensioners worse off and is now going to increase our taxes.
He said so many times when in opposition about pensioners having to choose heating or eating and look what he’s done to them, all when he and most others in his party are taking so much in freebies that they could afford to pay for.
Labour will never get my vote again

For goodness sake give them a chance.People have very short memories- the last government were abysmal in every way.They wrecked the economy and we’re corrupt to the core,I cannot understand how anyone could still hanker after them. We need a government for all the people not the top one percent.

My grandmother worked pre WW2, as a dressmaker, from home until before outbreak of War when she and her husband ran a corner shop. Many women worked, but in close by cleaning jobs, shops and small local businesses or from home (the chain makers of Cradley Heath) while the older children or family took care of the younger ones. Children in those families were more self-sufficient then, they had to be.

Annma

For goodness sake give them a chance.People have very short memories- the last government were abysmal in every way.They wrecked the economy and we’re corrupt to the core,I cannot understand how anyone could still hanker after them. We need a government for all the people not the top one percent.

Head, hear! It is very sad that people have such short memories.

Well, that kind of arrangement would probably be reported these days, I expect - depending on the age of the children, obviously.

Lesley60

In my opinion Labour got in on a load of lies, and false promises, he appeared to be a man for working people and was going to make us better off but so far he has made pensioners worse off and is now going to increase our taxes.
He said so many times when in opposition about pensioners having to choose heating or eating and look what he’s done to them, all when he and most others in his party are taking so much in freebies that they could afford to pay for.
Labour will never get my vote again

Ah! But what do you mean by "working people"?

Can I ask what is going on here? Why has Keir Starmer become such a target for negativity and invective? It seems to have shades of a witch hunt. The duplicity and deception of the previous incredibly destructive Tory rule seems to have been forgotten. The man is only a few months into office - why has everyone taken against him when he won a landslide? For goodness sake give him a chance. Not all of his decisions are going to be popular but he’s hopefully heading in a direction which will ultimately help the UK get back on their feet. All this is sadly reminiscent of what happened to Barrack Obama and Jacinda Adhern - the right wing press really gunning for them and blocking a lot of really positive legislative change - the population then joining in a chorus of dragging them down. All are good people with strong core values and moral clarity who are/have been constantly hounded. I find it really scary that the spectre of Trump is hovering over the world at the moment - that really would be a signal for global devastation … maybe be careful what you complain about?