Still told to 'get over it, it's done.

Thanks for this post.

Our old MP was a pro-Brexiteer but as for the new one, she's not very visible at all.

Write articles for paper - how do you get them published? That would be at the discretion of the Editor unless you work for that publication or are an established free-lance journalist

So should we write to pro-EU politicians and the PM urging them to apply to rejoin?

To coin a phrase, "they're going to do what they're going to do".

Well, I know I won't change things any other way except by voting.
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

Allira, you ask what I am doing about it.
I have joined the European Movement, which campaigns for a close relationship with the EU and to ensure that European values, standards and rights are upheld in the UK post-Brexit. We hold regular stalls in our town centre.
I'm a retired teacher of French and German, so I'm keeping up relationships with all possible contacts in the EU, including my late DH's through his many engineering business friends in the EU.
On this forum, I'm just saying, DH's company was an original equipment manufacturer, developing and making communications systems for difficult environments. Much of the production was exported to the EU. Going back to 1992 and the introduction of the single market, suddenly export to the EU became seamless, as did travel. Now, all has gone into reverse and I'm just glad he sold the company and retired before Brexit.
I'm an active Lib Dem, the party, one point of whose manifesto is membership of the single market.
Oh, and by the way, our DiL, a professional musician, is also campaigning to make it normal once again to work in the EU. Musicians have had a terrible time, what with Covid on top of Brexit.

Romola
European values, standards and rights

Are those the same European values, standards and rights that some EEC member countries don't feel are in their best interests?

Claremont

Allira

We do still trade with the EU.

It is just that we are no longer part of the Customs Union and Single Market.

Yes, we do, at huge costs. Lots of paperwork, expensive official and vet checks, customs duties, etc, which massively eats into profits, to the point that many have just given up.

On the other hand, as we so desperately need goods from EU- checks have been postponed, and postponed and postponed again, as we do not have suitable facilities or staffing- so anything can come into the UK mostly unchecked, including possibly dangerous meats, plants and electrical goods, etc (like batteries that blow up and cause fires).

In the meantime, if you follow GB News, you would not have seen the results of the YouGov statistics posted above- as they did not want you to see them. Wonder why?

*GB News has deleted article about plummeting Brexit support from their website*

Confirmed today in a BBC article, about warnings that security checks don't work- and that tons of illegal, unchecked and possibly diseased meat is entering the UK all the time.

'Efforts to keep potentially disease-ridden meat out of the UK are being undermined by post-Brexit border checks, a senior health official has said.

The boss of the Dover Port Health Authority said illegal meat, which has not been through proper health checks, was now available on "most high streets" in the UK.

European outbreaks of deadly animal diseases in recent months have left health authorities, Whitehall officials and many in the farming industry worried about the threat they pose to the UK.

But the government has insisted the checks work and it will never "waver in its duty to support the UK's biosecurity".

Under the post-Brexit system, checks on commercial vehicles do not take place at Dover itself.

Instead, drivers are ordered to travel 22 miles (35km) away to a border control post at Sevington.

But critics have warned that many lorries are simply failing to turn up for the checks, due to a lack of enforcement.'

Dangerous for people, our children, and also for our farming industry as disease can so easily spread. The system is just NOT working, Same for chemicals, drugs, electrical goods, unsafe materials of every kind.

UK farmers and producers, businesses, big and small, have had strong and expensive checks imposed since Brexit. But the UK is just too dependent on imports that it has just not been able to get proper checking systems working.

Claremont
Are these the meats that conform to
Romola’s
European values, standards and rights?

“Brexit makes me want to sit in a gutter and weep
Since we left the EU it's been easier to get into Iraq than France. None of this has made our lives better in any way
Unlike absolutely everyone on social media, I find it quite easy to get on with people whose views on life differ from my own. I don't want to murder someone who likes cats just because I prefer dogs. I can tolerate those who drink the juice of a nut rather than milk. And if someone comes up my drive in an electric car, I don't wave a shotgun in their general direction and tell them to back up.
I have a partner in my brewing and pub businesses. He's shy so I won't name him. Let's call him Peter. He's a Blairite leftie whose love of the Labour Party is so profound that he even voted for Starmer. But we get on well. If our political differences seep into the conversation, we josh one another in the same way we do when we are discussing Chelsea and his team of reds, Arsenal.
On the farm show, one of the producers believes that Jeremy Corbyn lost because he was too right-wing. He's a proper Marxist and it doesn't matter: he's a good chap, and fun to have around.
There is an exception to all of this, however. People who voted for Brexit. It's not so bad if they put their hands up and admit they made a mistake. But if I encounter someone who still thinks it was all a brilliant idea, I get so cross my hair catches fire and my teeth start to itch.
Brexit hasn't made our lives better in any way that I can see. It's bad enough these days going to Europe as a tourist, standing in the passport queue behind three million Nigerians and a plane-load of confused people from Japan. And then getting a text from Lisa, who's already by the pool with a glass of wine, because she's Irish.
But it's a billion times worse if you go there with a film crew. Because, today, you have to list everything you're taking and its value and its serial number. Every lens. Every cable. Every reflector. Every 4×4. Everything. And then, after you've spent several days doing all that, you pay a company thousands of pounds to put it all on a form, which is called a carnet.
But then you're done, right? Oh no you aren't. A couple of weeks ago, I needed to go to the Netherlands for Clarkson's Farm. So we spent the money, got the carnet and set off for Ashford, where we'd board the underwater train to Calais. Well, that's how I described it to Kaleb, my farm manager. I might even have said he'd be able to see fish out of the window.
Before we reached the tunnel entrance we had to leave the motorway and park up in a gigantic lorry park full of trucks from every conceivable European country. I even met a driver there from Belarus. And got on with him so well that he gave me a hat.
More has been spent in this place on high-visibility jackets than the NHS spent on PPE during Covid. And what was happening? Nothing, as far as I could tell. No lorries were being opened and checked. No dogs were sniffing tyres. We were simply waiting for someone in a cabin to stamp our form. And God did we wait. For two bloody hours.
Still, at least we were then done with the bureaucracy. Oh no we weren't, because having checked all our equipment out of the UK, we then had to check it all into France. So we got off the train and entered another gigantic lorry park, behind all the artics that had got off the earlier train, and the one before that. And when we reached the booth, the man explained that we'd been in the wrong queue and must follow the orange line to another lorry park a mile away. And we couldn't find the orange line. And it was raining, and I'd been looking forward to mooching around Bruges that night and now we wouldn't make it and I wanted to sit down in the gutter and weep.
I have crossed many tricky borders over the years and the paperwork always takes time. Iraq to Turkey took a moment, that's for sure. And Rwanda into Tanzania was challenging as well. But nothing has ever taken as long as it took us to get from post-Brexit England into France.
For the return journey, I suggested we drive to Calais and use a dinghy to cross the Channel. At least we'd get a biscuit when we arrived, and maybe even a free house. My communistical producer didn't find this funny and said we should follow the rules. This meant I had a choice: I could be a team player and stick with the crew, or I could travel on my own, in an aeroplane. So I went to Schiphol and checked in for the short hop to Heathrow.
I haven't yet worked out how to blame Brexit for this, but as air travel in Europe is now so bad, I got back to the farm that night ten minutes after Kaleb, who'd stuck with the crew and driven. So that made my teeth itch as well.
This, of course, is a trivial problem. It's no skin off your nose if it takes a whole afternoon and a couple of grand to carry a camera lens into France. But I suspect that every company wishing to do business in or with the EU has broadly similar problems.
And what's the upside? We are told it's better to be governed by a democratically elected parliament than some bankers in Brussels, but I'm not sure about that. I'd certainly prefer the bankers to Starmer and Reeves. I'd prefer anything. The fourth form of my local school. My dogs. Trump, even.
Lord Sir Sugar said recently that the biggest mistake in his lifetime was Brexit and that if he were prime minister, he'd crawl on his hands and knees over there, begging to be let back in. I'd go with him. Even though after two hours in a lorry park in Kent, I fear our knees might be quite sore.“
Jerem Clarkson in today’s Times. Of course people will disregard it because it’s Clarkson. The same people that probably applaud in him for siding with the farmers re inheritance tax. Clarkson, along with Branson and Sugar were largely ignored during the referendum debate because the news media were fixated with Dyson and Tim Martin.

MayBee70 take care of your stress levels over things that have been done.

mayBee that sounds like a FB blog.
Not that I’m on FB. 😂
But it sounds like regurgitated guff.

In the meantime, if you follow GB News, you would not have seen the results of the YouGov statistics posted above- as they did not want you to see them. Wonder why?

Sorry, I don't Claremonr.

Would you recommend it?

Oh Clarkson!
You have to read right to the end to find out ….😶

Since we left the EU it's been easier to get into Iraq than France.

Our relatives go back and forth regularly. They've ever mentioned any difficulty.
(I mean France, not Iraq.)

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Oh Clarkson!
You have to read right to the end to find out ….😶

One minute he's loathed on GN, the next he's a fount of wisdom 😀

Allira

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Oh Clarkson!
You have to read right to the end to find out ….😶

One minute he's loathed on GN, the next he's a fount of wisdom 😀

Depends if you agree with what he is saying at the time I suppose 🤷‍♀️😹

Mollygo

Claremont
Are these the meats that conform to
Romola’s
European values, standards and rights?

😂
I was just wondering the same thing.

No. It’s just that whenever we fly Manchester to Málaga it’s a dream. No queue as he described. (Mind you he was in the wrong one!).

I know he’s describing’the arts’ or business checks. Which don’t affect Himself and me.

But one person’s anecdotal story (his) is often cancelled out by another (ours)!

Phew * Maybee70* 😄 that’s a bit of an essay to read.Who wrote it btw? Over the top nonsense.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

mayBee that sounds like a FB blog.
Not that I’m on FB. 😂
But it sounds like regurgitated guff.

It was in todays Times...

FriedGreenTomatoes2 we have never had a problem flying into Malaga, Portugal or Cyprus since UK left the EU.

Oreo

Phew * Maybee70* 😄 that’s a bit of an essay to read.Who wrote it btw? Over the top nonsense.

I assume you didn't bother to read it or the comment I'd added at the end of the article. Just dismissed it out of hand because I'd written it....

Allira

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Oh Clarkson!
You have to read right to the end to find out ….😶

One minute he's loathed on GN, the next he's a fount of wisdom 😀

Clarkson made a tv series about Europe many years ago which actually made me warm to him. For that reason I've never totally dismissed his comments out of hand or loathed him.

Mollygo

MayBee70 take care of your stress levels over things that have been done.

How kind of you to be so concerned about my well being. It surely wasn't meant in a sarcastic way was it ?

I confess I didn’t reach the end of it Maybee70 it was just too much, in every way.
Why would it be cos you had posted this comment, I have no idea who you are beyond seeing your name now and then on this forum.
Seeing it’s by Clarkson makes sense of the OTT content.

Oreo

I confess I didn’t reach the end of it Maybee70 it was just too much, in every way.
Why would it be cos you had posted this comment, I have no idea who you are beyond seeing your name now and then on this forum.
Seeing it’s by Clarkson makes sense of the OTT content.

Can't win really. Post a link and people say they don't like links. Post a whole article and people find them too long to read. Anyway, as you say you're a long time Labour voter I would have thought you would have agreed with Clarkson about this.