Israel to Conquer Gaza part 2.

Anniebach

Was he replying to a question from Corbyn ?

Not sure by now it matters who asked.

Allira reported above

"Hamas says it has agreed to release 28 living and dead hostages" so there seems to be some movement/possiblities, lets hope so.

Agree, its time for sanctions carefully directed to hit the war cabinet rather than the people of Israel.

The cabinet are people of Israel,

Corbyn was on social media much this week saying he was going to ask the PM, Yes it matters to me who asked the question

The War Cabinet doesn't represent all the people of Israel currently.

Opposition is very widely reported both from Moderates like Yair Lapid, and from those who are actively anti war like the Standing together group who are demonstrating on a 3 day march at the moment.

I said the government are Israelis, they were voted for as Hamas was voted for

Anniebach

Miriam Margolyes now Owen Jones, stars of Instagram and TikTok , !

Totally irrelevant. Owen Jones did not say a single word. Did you listen to what the other guy was saying- because THAT is the terribly relevant part.

And of course, you will tell me that my Jewish friends don't exist, and they are accused of being 'self hating Jews' for criticising the genocide carried out by Netanyahu and the IDF. And we who support them will be systematically accused of antisemitism- it has become an official, automatic response.

fb.watch/A1426CI1e4/

Listen to Gabor Maté, in the above video, a world famous specialist in trauma, a Jew, a child survivor of the holocaust who lost many at the time, and a previous Zionist. Will you accuse him of false reporting, of antisemitism.

Last time I travelled quite a long way in a storm to be at a peaceful and silent vigil for Gaza. Very moving, very dignified, and we all felt so so helpless in the face of all the violence. So fearful too for our Jewish friends- they know that the more violence, the more deaths, the more suffering - will probably mean the more pain for them in the future- as there is no longer a solution ofr neither side.

I listened to Gabor Mate, we all should. A good man. Thanks Claremont.

I think those days are passing Claremont, when being
anti-Netanyahu is allowed/accepted to be labelled as being
anti-semitic. Thank goodness. Although some will still try.

Report on Facebook saying that 'Labour MPs visit Israel in the middle of Gaza genocide'. Labour Friends of Israel have gone on a lobbying trip, lasting 4 days, which seems to have taken place last week.

Article on BBC online this morning by Jeremy Bowen covering some of the points we have raised on this thread.

Maremia

Article on BBC online this morning by Jeremy Bowen covering some of the points we have raised on this thread.

I have just read this and agree that while the world looks on and does nothing it gives other regimes the idea that genocide is acceptable.
Israel is guilty of war crimes.

Jeremy Bowen international editor BBC

And your prefered source is?

'preferred'

Maremia

And your prefered source is?

Why ask that?

Why not?

I don't understand the relevance.

Or are you asking for other reliable sources?

Reuters
CNN
Sky
ABC
Al Jazeera

Jeremy Bowen is reliable, or do you not think so?

One preferred source is not healthy, it means reading what I know I will agree with, will say what I want to hear

It does need wide reading, yes. Over time one trusts some sources when they do really try hard to give different POV as opposed to those giving only one POV.

I do not have trust in the BBC , at one time would switch on the BBC news before any.other source of news, their coverage
of Gaza has not been trustworthy

Anniebach

One preferred source is not healthy, it means reading what I know I will agree with, will say what I want to hear

No, it could lead to a blinkered outlook on many situations.

Anniebach

One preferred source is not healthy, it means reading what I know I will agree with, will say what I want to hear

I would totally agree. And yet this is exactly what you are doing- refusing to see any other sources and pov.

Will you for instance, read the article about Israel committing war crimes

www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0r1xl5wgnko?at_format=link&at_medium=social&at_bbc_team=editorial&at_link_type=web_link&at_ptr_name=facebook_page&at_link_origin=BBC_News&at_campaign_type=owned&at_link_id=A67EAC04-4449-11F0-90A3-CE6EC95763DC&at_campaign=Social_Flow

or did you listen to the Jewish man saying every single baby and child is a potential terrorist- being fed terrorism through their Palestinian mother's milk, and have all to be exterminated (posted earlier), or listen to Gabor Maté, a Jew, ex zionist whose family are Holocaust survivor, and who is saying more or less the same as Jeremy Bowen. If you refuses to read or listen to them, then you are definitely guilty of only listening to those who say 'what you want to hear', aren't you?

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I thought Anniebach already said that One preferred source is not healthy, it means reading what I know I will agree with, will say what I want to hear.

You are directing her to your preferred sources and assuming what she might have read (which you have, obviously).
Perhaps people prefer to read independent, unbiased reports.

Exactly Allira, one should listen to a variety of sources, not just the ones one wants to hear- my very point.

And of course, some sources are direct- the direct words from people who say things I don't want to hear, because it is abominable, and beyond humanity. It does not matter that Owen Jones shared it on Facebook- the words are not altered. Those of a Jew who says every single child and baby of Palestine have to be killed- as they drink terrorism from their mother's milk and are future rapists of your own child. Every single one of them. It is chilling, terrifying, and as Jones say - there is no difference with the rethoric of 1940s Germany. None. It makes very very hard listening- but no-one should close their ears.

Did you listen to him? www.facebook.com/share/r/16KJ8KVTLP/