Israel to Conquer Gaza part 2.

AGAA4 Thu 12-Jun-25 09:27:20
Yes Iam64 antisemitism is an age old prejudice. I've never really understood it and still don't.
Anti semitics are always around but show their true colours in situations like this.
I am truly sorry that Netanyahu's actions have brought out this nasty side of some people and caused suffering to innocents.

A Jew is responsible for the increase in antisemitism, a Jew
is responsible for the nasty side in some people ! ! ! !

My words were misunderstood, perhaps I didn’t put it well but I was referring to Israel politically as a country that has rarely been criticised, probably because of guilt and shame that Europe and others stood by and did little during the war. I remember hearing about a boat full of Jews not being allowed to dock in the UK by churchill, which was sent on elsewhere.

I don’t deny there are some who are antisemetic as there is and sadly always will be racism towards other ‘different’ groups too. See Ireland at present. That’s all about ‘furriners’ .

Anniebach:you have totally misread my post! I hate anti semitism and if you knew more about me you would know why.
I am disgusted by your post.

AGAA4

*Anniebach*:you have totally misread my post! I hate anti semitism and if you knew more about me you would know why.
I am disgusted by your post.

This has been going on for many months- some of us being accused, again and again, and reported, for being antisemites- when we have said continually that we are not, but cannot stand by and watch Netanyahu commit genocide.

Palestinians are, btw, semites, by definition.

Anniebach

AGAA4 Thu 12-Jun-25 09:27:20
Yes Iam64 antisemitism is an age old prejudice. I've never really understood it and still don't.
Anti semitics are always around but show their true colours in situations like this.
I am truly sorry that Netanyahu's actions have brought out this nasty side of some people and caused suffering to innocents.

A Jew is responsible for the increase in antisemitism, a Jew
is responsible for the nasty side in some people ! ! ! !

Suffering to all innocents- Palestinian children, families, the elderly, hospital staff, and so many more. Or do you only care about the suffering of the other side?

This

“Israel’s government is issuing “clearly illegal” orders that must not be obeyed, a group of Israeli military intelligence officers have said, announcing they will no longer participate in combat operations in Gaza.

In a letter addressed to Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, the defence minister, Israel Katz, and the head of the military, the group of 41 officers and reservists said the government was waging an “unnecessary, eternal war” in Gaza.

The letter, which was shared online late on Tuesday, said the group would refuse to take part in a “war designed to preserve the rule of Netanyahu” and appease “anti-democratic and messianic elements in [his] government”.

The letter’s signatories are not named but are identified as members of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF)’s intelligence directorate, which has played a key role in the 20-month offensive in the Gaza Strip, particularly through the selection of bombing targets.

Addressing the impact of the offensive on civilians in the territory, the group wrote: “When a government acts for ulterior motives, harms civilians and leads to the killing of innocent people, the orders it issues are clearly illegal, and we must not obey them.”

All the death is unnecessary. The hostages suffer and die. Soldiers are sent for nothing. And all the killing in Gaza, everything is completely unnecessary.”

Following on from the above post.

A recently retired American intelligence officer has stated that the IDF know exactly who are in the houses that they are bombing - so they bomb children with impunity. It must be stopped.

Bombing targets are Hamas hideouts , Hamas threatens to kill
all Jews

silverlining48

I have no dislike towards Jews as individuals or as a a group, never have, the opposite actually, but because of what is happening now, in their name , they may have to get used to no longer being immune from criticism.

They have breached international rule of law so many times over the decades but they have always had the USA as protector so they avoided being called to account.

I don’t think the current Israeli government actually care what anyone thinks. Netanyahu aim is to stay out of jail so brought in extremists and their goal is to get rid of the palistinians by killing or driving them off their lands, and out of the country, so they can take the whole land for their own. That’s genocide.

Personally I think most normal people wherever they are just want to live in peace. It’s the politicians who decide and the ordinary citizens who pay the cost with shattered lives.

I totally agree with you Silverlining. I don't blame all Jews for what is happening, I blame the Israeli Government (and some Jews who support their horrible activities).

I do not support Hamas, what they did was barbaric, but then neither do a lot of Palestinians. They haven't had the chance to express their views recently. Having won the Election of 2006, Hamas have declined to go back to the people.

It's good to know that some people have a conscience Whitewave

AGAA4

It's good to know that some people have a conscience Whitewave

It certainly seems to be growing all over the world.

People no longer have the stomach to tolerate such evil.

Whitewavemark2

Following on from the above post.

A recently retired American intelligence officer has stated that the IDF know exactly who are in the houses that they are bombing - so they bomb children with impunity. It must be stopped.

A country like Israel must have excellent intelligence services. Modern weapons of warfare can precisely pinpoint targets as the recent Ukrainian drone strike demonstrated. Therefore, crude bombing of whole buildings is excessive if the motive is to take out one or two individuals. However, if mass slaughter is the motivation, then there will be no end to it until every Palestinian in Gaza is dead. What then? When will Netanyahu declare his win and what will it look like?

Anniebach

Bombing targets are Hamas hideouts , Hamas threatens to kill
all Jews

Annie, over the last few months, several of us have shown videos and shared articles, showing some Jews, illegal settlers, Government and military officials, and even Netanyahu himself- threatening, in fact, saying that they have ot - kill all Palestinians, including all children and babies. I know you refuse to read or watch them- you dismiss all of them, including Theroux's documentary and others, as 'just Hamas propaganda'. It is so hard to even begin to discuss what is happening with someone who 100% point blank refuses to read or watch anything that disagrees with their understanding. The dehumanisation, the calling Palestinians animals, rats and snakes and that they therefore can be killed with impunity, babies and all.

And then we get reported for being antisemitic.

Parsley3

Whitewavemark2

Following on from the above post.

A recently retired American intelligence officer has stated that the IDF know exactly who are in the houses that they are bombing - so they bomb children with impunity. It must be stopped.

A country like Israel must have excellent intelligence services. Modern weapons of warfare can precisely pinpoint targets as the recent Ukrainian drone strike demonstrated. Therefore, crude bombing of whole buildings is excessive if the motive is to take out one or two individuals. However, if mass slaughter is the motivation, then there will be no end to it until every Palestinian in Gaza is dead. What then? When will Netanyahu declare his win and what will it look like?

Yes that’s right.

Also as the intelligence is so good, why haven’t they supplied the names of the Hamas terrorists?

I think Israel has lost do much good will that so many felt for them. It will be very difficult to get it back.

It seems Israel and Gaza will never live in peace with each other.
Netanyahu's government want to 'cleanse' (Smotrich's word) Gaza, which means killing every man, woman and child by one means or another.

October 2026, thanks AnnieB, gosh, that's ages away. Hope he goes before that, and give's someone a chance to resolve what ever can be.

Parsley3

Whitewavemark2

Following on from the above post.

A recently retired American intelligence officer has stated that the IDF know exactly who are in the houses that they are bombing - so they bomb children with impunity. It must be stopped.

A country like Israel must have excellent intelligence services. Modern weapons of warfare can precisely pinpoint targets as the recent Ukrainian drone strike demonstrated. Therefore, crude bombing of whole buildings is excessive if the motive is to take out one or two individuals. However, if mass slaughter is the motivation, then there will be no end to it until every Palestinian in Gaza is dead. What then? When will Netanyahu declare his win and what will it look like?

thats what I always think. Israeli intelligence agency has always been second to non. No way they don't know.

I apologise for posting without catching up on this thread
I’ve just seen a post from UNICEF on my Facebook . Images of starving infants. UNICEF state almost 71,000 children under age five are at risk of malnutrition in Gaza

It’s unconscionable

Then there are the many thousands of children who have lost limbs often by amputation without anaesthesia.

As reported by medics on the ground, inc British doctors, even one child having limbs amputated without anaesthetic is one too many.

I have tried give info how to give money via Medicins sans Frontiere and suggestions about what nd how to write to politicians upthread "Iam*

but there is some intransigence we keep returning to on this thread as regards discussing those poor wee babies in the pictures big eyes and what to do if we an only cope with being "keyboard warriors".

In my town there is a March this weekend and I would love to and see and see who turns up from different groups. Becuase we have been saying on here its different backgrounds faith wise but to see for myself and talk to see if its true or selective propaganda - maybe I could cope just going to the meet up point and see who is there.

I would march if I was able but can't do that these days. I will try and give more money to MSF instead. The thought of suffering children makes me want to weep.

Yes, the suffering of the children and their parents/families who hear the children’s hunger pain cries. It’s unforgivable no matter what caused the Israeli reaction,
Forgive me but, we still reflect on Horishima, on Dresden etc which came at the end of a long war, a war that had to be fought and won yet we still rightly question, was the horror caused justified. Imagine historical reviews on this conflict

Smotrich issued his starkest warning regarding the prospect of unilateral recognition of a Palestinian state: “If you recognize a Palestinian state unilaterally, we’ll ensure there’s nothing left to recognize.”

Smotrich is an evil excuse for a human being. He wants all the Gazans gone whether there is a recognised state of Palestine or not.