Gransnet forums

News & politics

Israel to conquer Gaza. Part 3

(1001 Posts)
Claremont Fri 04-Jul-25 18:09:30

because tragically it is not over.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 19-Jul-25 19:33:28

BBC report

At least 32 Palestinians seeking food have been killed by Israeli gunfire near two aid distribution points close to Khan Younis and Rafah in southern Gaza,

Dozens were also injured near the two sites run by the controversial US and Israeli-backed Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF), it

The GHF said there were no incidents "at or near" their sites, but that there had been "Israel Defense Forces (IDF) activity" hours before their sites were due to open.
One eyewitness told the Reuters news agency that the Israeli gunfire seemed "targeted to kill".

Anniebach Sat 19-Jul-25 19:40:15

Quote Whitewavemark2 Sat 19-Jul-25 19:33:28
BBC report

At least 32 Palestinians seeking food have been killed by Israeli gunfire near two aid distribution points close to Khan Younis and Rafah in southern Gaza,

Dozens were also injured near the two sites run by the controversial US and Israeli-backed Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF), it

The GHF said there were no incidents "at or near" their sites, but that there had been "Israel Defense Forces (IDF) activity" hours before their sites were due to open.
One eyewitness told the Reuters news agency that the Israeli gunfire seemed "targeted to kill".

Released earlier today by Hamas and repeated in BBC News

AGAA4 Sat 19-Jul-25 19:42:30

It does look like targeted killing to me. Nobody has that many 'mistakes'.

foxie48 Sat 19-Jul-25 20:52:35

Anyone who is willing to take the time (less than 15 minutes) to listen to the Radio 4 report will understand why Prof Maynard says it is "targeted killing" sadly some just don't want to know.

Anniebach Sat 19-Jul-25 21:22:27

Quote foxie48 Sat 19-Jul-25 20:52:35
Anyone who is willing to take the time (less than 15 minutes) to listen to the Radio 4 report will understand why Prof Maynard says it is "targeted killing" sadly some just don't want to know.

And some are tired of listening / reading of the evils of Israel and their alleged Palestinian victims , all info comes from Hamas Fact

Smileless2012 Sat 19-Jul-25 21:58:51

Well I'm definitely tired of hearing about the IDF atrocities especially when they're written off as 'mistakes' angry.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 20-Jul-25 07:29:58

I have been tired from day one thinking of all the suffering, hatred and dead.

But I simply can’t gloss over what I see and hear, because I feel those poor people must never be ignored, I would want someone to recognise my child’s murder in the world.

I must never lessen my humanity, otherwise, what am I?

silverlining48 Sun 20-Jul-25 09:16:08

Just for once Netanyahu has issued an apology for the bombing of the Christian church in Gaza. I suppose he needs to have an eye on his Christian supporters in the wider world, who obviously don’t appreciate this happening.

As for ‘alleged Palistine victims…. Fact’ Denying tens of thousands of dead and injured people as ‘alleged’ is inhumane and might I say unchristian.

Anniebach Sun 20-Jul-25 09:29:04

Interesting, there is antisemitism in Anglican and Roman Catholic Church

Jillykins3 Sun 20-Jul-25 11:11:31

Why aren't Israeli settlers' referred to as ,"Israeli terrorists' by the rest of the world. It's quite a nice label isn't it "settlers". They openly murder and terrorise innocent Palestinians throwing them off of their land..burning their houses.How many children have they killed ? I saw a really
sad video of a farmer trying help his sheep who had been purposely shot dead or injured. How can the rest of
the word not condemn this more than they do. And all with the support of the IDF.

Claremont Sun 20-Jul-25 11:17:20

Anniebach

Quote foxie48 Sat 19-Jul-25 20:52:35
Anyone who is willing to take the time (less than 15 minutes) to listen to the Radio 4 report will understand why Prof Maynard says it is "targeted killing" sadly some just don't want to know.

And some are tired of listening / reading of the evils of Israel and their alleged Palestinian victims , all info comes from Hamas Fact

Tired of listenin about 'alleged' Palestinian victims, children, babies, others and so many more.

Tired?

This comment is so appalling and lacking in humanity, perhaps the worse ever on GN.

Anniebach Sun 20-Jul-25 11:48:22

Quote Anniebach Sun 20-Jul-25 09:29:04

And some are tired of listening / reading of the evils of Israel and their alleged Palestinian victims , all info comes from Hamas Fact

I did not speak the following as claimed

Quote Claremont Sun 20-Jul-25 11:17:20

Tired of listenin about 'alleged' Palestinian victims, children, babies, others and so many more.

Tired?

Smileless2012 Sun 20-Jul-25 13:45:33

But the hearing about and reading of the evils of Israel and their alleged Palestinian victims that you said some are tired of are about Palestinian children, babies, others and so many more Annie.

Anniebach Sun 20-Jul-25 13:58:22

33
But the hearing about and reading of the evils of Israel and their alleged Palestinian victims that you said some are tired of are about Palestinian children, babies, others and so many more Annie.


Quote Anniebach Sun 20-Jul-25 09:29:04

And some are tired of listening / reading of the evils of Israel and their alleged Palestinian victims , all info comes from Hamas Fact

Smileless2012 Sun 20-Jul-25 14:06:15

They are not alleged victims Annie we've all seen them on the news; fact.

LizzieDrip Sun 20-Jul-25 14:19:11

Annie how can you deny the evidence of your own eyes on TV screens?

Parsley3 Sun 20-Jul-25 14:28:46

news.sky.com/story/amputations-badly-burned-bomb-victims-and-lack-of-medicine-british-surgeons-on-daily-life-in-gaza-13385804

www.vogue.co.uk/article/gaza-british-doctor-viewpoint

“Non-Stop Casualties On An Unimaginable Scale”: A British Surgeon Recounts Her Stint On The Ground In Gaza
Dr Victoria Rose is an NHS plastic surgeon and the chair of the UK’s Specialty Advisory Committee on Plastic Surgery Training. She also works with Ideals, a doctors’ charity that has been supporting trauma care services in Gaza since 2009. UNICEF estimates than more than a thousand children in Gaza have become amputees since October 2023. In March, Dr Rose spent two and a half weeks working at the European Gaza Hospital in Khan Younis. In an essay for Vogue, she reflects on her time on the ground – and her plans to return.

I doubt that Dr Victoria Rose is working undercover as a Hamas operative so I believe her eyewitness account of the suffering in Gaza.

Curlywhirly Sun 20-Jul-25 16:06:11

Parsley3

news.sky.com/story/amputations-badly-burned-bomb-victims-and-lack-of-medicine-british-surgeons-on-daily-life-in-gaza-13385804

www.vogue.co.uk/article/gaza-british-doctor-viewpoint

“Non-Stop Casualties On An Unimaginable Scale”: A British Surgeon Recounts Her Stint On The Ground In Gaza
Dr Victoria Rose is an NHS plastic surgeon and the chair of the UK’s Specialty Advisory Committee on Plastic Surgery Training. She also works with Ideals, a doctors’ charity that has been supporting trauma care services in Gaza since 2009. UNICEF estimates than more than a thousand children in Gaza have become amputees since October 2023. In March, Dr Rose spent two and a half weeks working at the European Gaza Hospital in Khan Younis. In an essay for Vogue, she reflects on her time on the ground – and her plans to return.

I doubt that Dr Victoria Rose is working undercover as a Hamas operative so I believe her eyewitness account of the suffering in Gaza.

👏👏👏

AGAA4 Sun 20-Jul-25 16:20:20

There have been other British doctors who have come back from Gaza telling of emaciated children that nobody would ever want to see.

Anybody who has any compassion would feel for these children. Unfortunately compassion for some is only given to the aggressors.

Claremont Sun 20-Jul-25 16:25:53

LizzieDrip

Annie how can you deny the evidence of your own eyes on TV screens?

here is someone who is not Hamas, telling it how it is, how children are being deliberately targetted, with different body parts on different days and locations

www.facebook.com/share/r/16pk8PYUBt/

Whitewavemark2 Mon 21-Jul-25 08:40:29

The U.K. is cooperating with a number of countries - in particular France in recognising Palestine as a sovereign state.

75% of countries already recognise Palestine, the U.K. will become one if their number.

A political solution is the only the solution possible.

The pope has called for an end to barbarity in Gaza, and the indiscriminate use of force. 85 more have been killed whilst queueing for aid.

Starvation is continuing to spread.
There is sufficient aid waiting at the border to feed the people of Gaza for at least the next 2 months.

Anniebach Mon 21-Jul-25 08:54:21

Whitewave you quote Hamas yet again, you truly trust Hamas ?

LizzieDrip Mon 21-Jul-25 09:07:16

Whitewavemark2

The U.K. is cooperating with a number of countries - in particular France in recognising Palestine as a sovereign state.

75% of countries already recognise Palestine, the U.K. will become one if their number.

A political solution is the only the solution possible.

The pope has called for an end to barbarity in Gaza, and the indiscriminate use of force. 85 more have been killed whilst queueing for aid.

Starvation is continuing to spread.
There is sufficient aid waiting at the border to feed the people of Gaza for at least the next 2 months.

Thanks for this WW.

Recognition of Palestine as a sovereign state can’t come soon enough.

AGAA4 Mon 21-Jul-25 10:28:13

"A sovereign state's borders are invioble" the sooner Palestine is recognised as a sovereign state then Israel have no legal rights to be there.

Claremont Mon 21-Jul-25 11:03:44

Anniebach

Whitewave you quote Hamas yet again, you truly trust Hamas ?

NO, she does not, none of us do.

Some months ago, Annieb asked about the responsability of those who remain silent in the face of a genocide. I didn't reply at the time, but I will now.

Those who remain silent now that there is no excuse whatsoever for not knowing that this genocide IS taking place, and with the support of our Goverment, the USA and the 'West' in general, are complicit.

Much more so those who deliberately and repeatedly deny that this is happening and try to shut the truth down. They become active participants, with their words and denial, and every attempt to shut down the truth.

Just like those who refused to see, and even condoned, what happened in the diabolical events of the 1940s.

This discussion thread has reached a 1000 message limit, and so cannot accept new messages.
Start a new discussion