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This must be a sad day for England

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BlueBelle Sat 13-Sept-25 16:01:07

More than 100,000 people in central London have joined a march organised by far-right activist Tommy Robinson

I ll say no more it’s devastating for this country

Galaxy Mon 15-Sept-25 21:50:43

If reform win, it will be through democracy.

StoneofDestiny Tue 16-Sept-25 04:26:10

Whitewavemark2
By all means support Tommy Robinson the ex-football hooligan.

By all means show your support for the anti-Muslim bigot.

By all means show your support for Islamaphobia

By all means show your support for white supremacists

By all means show your support for someone known as a violent school bully.

And by all means show your support for an ex-convict for violence, corruption and hate speech.

At least we are all now clear where you stand

StoneofDestiny Tue 16-Sept-25 04:40:52

Utterly scary that so many people can think that waving a flag represents positive action in our community. Utterly embarrassing that anybody can find virtue in a bunch of people whose only proven contribution to our country is to shout at hotels, paint roundabouts, vandalise historic monuments and war memorials and follow hooligans who attack our police.
Wonder how many of these people do positive community service or volunteering to help those in need. How many of them can mention anything positive Farage has done for his constituency? How many of them know how Farage admires Andrew Tate and Donald Trump, and given half a chance, that Farage would be working with Trump in the USA rather than living in the UK? How many of them know their history and can see strong comparisons with the tactics used to get Hitler to power in Germany with the tactics we are seeing here in the UK used by Reform and Yaxley-Lennon?
How many of them actually understand they are debasing our national flags and the memory of those who fought and died to rid the world of Fascism?
Shame on them.

StoneofDestiny Tue 16-Sept-25 04:46:17

Danny Kruger, like the other Tory defectors, is trying to keep his income stream. What a collection of failures Reform attracts.........

StoneofDestiny Tue 16-Sept-25 04:52:31

Elon Musk, Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins..........and assorted hotel shouters and roundabout painters. Just what the country needs to create an amoral desert

nanna8 Tue 16-Sept-25 04:56:24

Here we are in a very dicey position as regards financial markets which will spell hardship for many retirees and pensioners. All this world stuff will of course be blamed on your current leaders if it comes to the UK. Dodgy situation all round.

whywhywhy Tue 16-Sept-25 07:13:26

StoneofDestiny - I agree.

Wyllow3 Tue 16-Sept-25 07:19:31

WWM2 has frequently and consistently stated the opposite than your list of statements in the 4 years I've known her in GN, StoneofDestiny. what brought these accusations on is utterly confuffling to me.

Galaxy Tue 16-Sept-25 07:27:46

As I keep trying gently to say there is some very unusual stuff going on, on GN at the moment.
I am sure Whitewave doesn't need or want my help but she categorically doesn't support Reform or Tommy Robinson.

Wyllow3 Tue 16-Sept-25 07:37:33

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StripeyGran Tue 16-Sept-25 07:45:03

Wyllow3

WWM2 has frequently and consistently stated the opposite than your list of statements in the 4 years I've known her in GN, StoneofDestiny. what brought these accusations on is utterly confuffling to me.

Perhaps just a typing error or something?

Easy to get carried away.

I'm still perplexed as to how someone who professes to be a humanist,wants a quiet life, even has Muslim friends (!) consistently starts nasty threads and believes that performance on Saturday was a fun family day out.

Galaxy Tue 16-Sept-25 07:46:10

You have got the wrong poster.

mumofmadboys Tue 16-Sept-25 07:50:46

It is so scary when people are saying it's better to hate our fellow human beings rather than love them.

Wyllow3 Tue 16-Sept-25 08:06:36

Time to wait for WWM to explain and return to the issues not making to personal to one GN poster. Stoneof Destiny it was reportable as far as I'm concerned but rather it stood.

Iam64 Tue 16-Sept-25 08:43:03

It was simply incorrect. Not Whitewave

Doodledog Tue 16-Sept-25 09:21:19

Iam64

It was simply incorrect. Not Whitewave

Agreed. Mistaken Identity rather than a deliberate lie, I think.

MaizieD Tue 16-Sept-25 09:28:14

I agree, Dd.

I thought the poster was reproducing a list that Wwmk2 had originally posted, but I couldn’t be bothered to check back over this depressing thread.

Otherwise, just a mistaken identity. I don’t think it’s worth reporting. It would be good if SoD came back to apologise, though.

Robin202 Tue 16-Sept-25 09:28:53

The words ‘Far Right’ are bandied about far too freely. To feel patriotic about our country of birth and to want to retain our Christian values is not a crime or worthy of such a label.

Did you know many of the major supermarkets use Halal slaughter?
Do you think that’s acceptable?
Sharia courts too?
Threats to white women and children from those with third world customs?
Grooming gangs? All acceptable?

There are ghettos in the UK where you would not feel safe to walk.
Been to Whitechapel in London of late? Step off the tube and you think you’ve arrived in Bangladesh.
Should we feel like outsiders in certain areas of our own country?

Those who live in the rolling green hills of England, like I do, or in a retirement area of confortable houses and bungalows with like minded neighbours, are protected, in a bubble, from these mass societal changes occurring in many towns and cities.
But those who don’t, are feeling it.

Yes, there will always be extremists in any mass gathering, out to cause trouble for the sake of it and paid agitators too.
But there are also concerned families, retirees, from all walks of life, who choose to unite as British people who want to conserve what was once, a pride in Britain.

Oreo Tue 16-Sept-25 09:29:50

StripeyGran

Wyllow3

WWM2 has frequently and consistently stated the opposite than your list of statements in the 4 years I've known her in GN, StoneofDestiny. what brought these accusations on is utterly confuffling to me.

Perhaps just a typing error or something?

Easy to get carried away.

I'm still perplexed as to how someone who professes to be a humanist,wants a quiet life, even has Muslim friends (!) consistently starts nasty threads and believes that performance on Saturday was a fun family day out.

Are you accusing BlueBelle the OP here of this?
What with that and another poster mixing up Whitewavemark2 this is getting silly.🤔

Oreo Tue 16-Sept-25 09:30:54

Galaxy

As I keep trying gently to say there is some very unusual stuff going on, on GN at the moment.
I am sure Whitewave doesn't need or want my help but she categorically doesn't support Reform or Tommy Robinson.

Very unusual stuff 😁

Oreo Tue 16-Sept-25 09:33:07

Bang on the money Robin02 and those who shriek racist at every turn will be those in protective bubbles.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 16-Sept-25 09:37:16

Hello.

I’ve been avoiding this thread for obvious reasons.

SoD I assume that you simply meant to reinforce what I had originally posted.

So I am happy to let it stand unless of course you meant me 😊. In which case perhaps you might like to have it removed.

But honestly? Either way I don’t mind as posters will know my position so it doesn’t matter.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 16-Sept-25 09:45:31

I would like to add one more

By all means show your support for someone whose rhetoric has frequently used anti-Semitic tropes and terms

These are not people a single one of us should support.

Allira Tue 16-Sept-25 09:59:24

MaizieD

I agree, Dd.

I thought the poster was reproducing a list that Wwmk2 had originally posted, but I couldn’t be bothered to check back over this depressing thread.

Otherwise, just a mistaken identity. I don’t think it’s worth reporting. It would be good if SoD came back to apologise, though.

It would be good if SoD came back to apologise, though.
Do you think that's likely? 🤔

Likewise the other misidentification and other misunderstandings, this is getting silly now.

Teazel2 Tue 16-Sept-25 09:59:28

Robin202

The words ‘Far Right’ are bandied about far too freely. To feel patriotic about our country of birth and to want to retain our Christian values is not a crime or worthy of such a label.

Did you know many of the major supermarkets use Halal slaughter?
Do you think that’s acceptable?
Sharia courts too?
Threats to white women and children from those with third world customs?
Grooming gangs? All acceptable?

There are ghettos in the UK where you would not feel safe to walk.
Been to Whitechapel in London of late? Step off the tube and you think you’ve arrived in Bangladesh.
Should we feel like outsiders in certain areas of our own country?

Those who live in the rolling green hills of England, like I do, or in a retirement area of confortable houses and bungalows with like minded neighbours, are protected, in a bubble, from these mass societal changes occurring in many towns and cities.
But those who don’t, are feeling it.

Yes, there will always be extremists in any mass gathering, out to cause trouble for the sake of it and paid agitators too.
But there are also concerned families, retirees, from all walks of life, who choose to unite as British people who want to conserve what was once, a pride in Britain.

Thank you for this post, it really is bang on the money.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏