Genocide is being committed in Gaza by Israel

I was unaware Israel built the tunnels. Well, well, well, what a tangled web we weave when we endeavour to deceive.
Hmmm.
Sort of blows the whole argument to bits that the IDF were using bunker blasting bombs indiscriminately because they weren’t sure where the tunnels were.

The ignorance about the tunnels is staggering!
Israel did not build them, they were built by Palestinians initially for smuggling and extended into Israel and Egypt.
They were used intermittently for lightening attacks on Israel and hostage taking ( yes, Gazans have been doing that well before 2023).When hamas took power they dedicated themselves to building more and more, boasting they had 500k of tunnels, getting every more deeper and more sophisticated.
They have been at it ever since.
At one point the President of Egypt ordered the flooding of the tunnels that affected his country, the previous President had been a friend to the Muslim Brotherhood and encouraged it.
These tunnels are so deep in some cases and so long that they will be very difficult for the IDF to deal with.There are certain to be both live and dead hostages in them too.
Google Reuters reports and Wiki amongst others to read about them, it isn’t hidden so there’s no excuse not to know.

I already knew that the tunnels were built by Israel but found the clarification very easily on line.
The Israeli PM at the time Edward ? stated that the tunnels were built by Israelis in the 1980s which is years before Israel under PM Sharon returned Gaza to the Palestinians in the early 2000s.

Edud Barak was PM at the time .

Well I didn't know the tunnels were dug by Israel.
All their propaganda hinted "dug by Hamas". didnt most in the world think that?

I'm very, very angry.

Please can you give me the reference, silverlining48 or Oreo's version will "stick" and the real truth should be shouted.

Wikipedia

vast network of underground tunnels used for smuggling and warfare exists in the Gaza Strip. This infrastructure runs throughout the Gaza Strip and towards Egypt and Israel, and has been developed by Hamas and other Palestinian military organizations to facilitate the storing and shielding of weapons; the gathering and moving of fighters, including for training and communication purposes; the launching of offensive attacks against Israel; and the transportation of Israeli hostages. On several occasions, Palestinian militants have also used this tunnel network, which is colloquially referred to as the Gaza metro,[1][2][3]‌ to infiltrate Israel and Egypt while masking their presence and activities within the Gaza Strip itself. According to Iranian military officer Hassan Hassanzadeh, who commands the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps from Tehran, the Gaza Strip's tunnels run for more than 500 kilometres (310 mi) throughout the territory.[4

And much more, but I am sure you know

Wyllow3

Please can you give me the reference, silverlining48 or Oreo's version will "stick" and the real truth should be shouted.

Reuters are usually reliable, I believe.

After the last hostilities in 2021, Hamas's leader in Gaza, Yehya Al-Sinwar, said: "They started saying they destroyed 100 km of Hamas tunnels. I am telling you, the tunnels we have in the Gaza Strip exceed 500 km. Even if their narrative is true, they only destroyed 20% of the tunnels."
There has been no corroboration of the comment by Sinwar, who is thought to be hiding underground ahead of an expected Israeli offensive.
But the estimate of hundreds of kilometres is widely accepted by security analysts, even though the blockaded coastal strip is only 40 km (25 miles) long.
Reuters
27/10/2023
www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-tunnel-city-beneath-gaza-hidden-frontline-israel-2023-10-26/

I'm waiting for Silverlinings reference, which will probably be tomorrow now.

It's important not to be naive. Jewish people like every other group have peace makers and war mongers. Many Jewish people arrived in the area in the 1930's and some were in terrorist groups determined to make as much of Palestine as possible into a State when they could.

"In the 1930s, Jewish terrorist groups operating in Mandatory Palestine included the Irgun (Etzel), an offshoot of the larger Haganah paramilitary organization that became more militant in 1931,

and the Haganah itself, which also conducted violent attacks and sabotage.

These groups used violence and terrorism to undermine British control and advance Zionist goals, notably during the 1936-1939 Arab revolt against British rule"

Tunnel construction began in Gaza before Israel withdrew its troops and settlers in 2005.

But it was ramped up after Hamas took control of the Strip two years later, which prompted Israel and Egypt to begin restricting the movement of goods and people in and out for security reasons.

At its peak, almost 2,500 tunnels running underneath the Egyptian border were used to smuggle in commercial goods, fuel and weapons, external by Hamas and other militant groups.

BBC
October 2023

The only thing which is confusing posters is that Israel added underground rooms to the al Shifa hospital , for operating and added storage which were linked by tunnels.Possibly at another hospital too when the hospitals were renovated.This is why the IDF knew that these rooms would be used by hamas before and after 7th October, they knew to look there.
The 500 k of tunnels were built over the years by Palestinians firstly for smuggling purposes and then by hamas for smuggling and weapons and being able to get into Israel for purposes such as leaving bombs in cafes and taking of hostages.

Wyllow3
Yes, it’s important for you to not be naive on this subject and think that silverlining48 has all the answers.

Wyllow3

Please can you give me the reference, silverlining48 or Oreo's version will "stick" and the real truth should be shouted.

FGS
Do your own research.

Well, Oreo's version seems to be rather similar to Reuters version.

Are you a Reuters reporter, Oreo?

If only! The salary would be nice Allira. Strangely enough where I used to live in London, the young woman next door actually was, she came and went and we looked after her cat.

I see no point at nearly midnight when we are all tired Oreo in rushing to look for the reference when silverlining has found a relevant one we can read in the morning, which is all I suggest .

No need for the "fgs".

Wyllow you asking for a reference, you are the champion poster of references .

So distressing that the Hamas v Israel war can be used this way ,

The U.K. is to recognise the State of Palestine.

🇯🇴🇯🇴🇯🇴🇯🇴.

“Currently, the state of Palestine is recognised by more than 140 of the 193 member states of the UN.

Macron has led the current drive for recognition and if events go ahead as planned it will mean four of the five permanent members of the UN security council recognise Palestine next week. The US as the fifth UN security council member can continue to veto Palestine obtaining voting rights at the UN. It currently has speaking rights.

Other countries on the brink of recognising a Palestinian state are Canada, Australia, Belgium, Portugal, Luxembourg and New Zealand. They are likely to recognise it either immediately before or at a UN special conference on a two-state solution due to be held in New York on Monday, the day before the UN general assembly high-level week begins. One or two of these countries may make recognition conditional upon Hamas being disarmed.

Recognition that Palestine is a state with the right to self-determination is an attempt to show Israel cannot simply annex land that the international court of justice has declared to be illegally occupied.

Awarding Hamas, the elected government of the people. If the People choose for Hamas to continue running Gaza it will

With regard to the tunnels.

The Israeli have full knowledge of exactly where the tunnels are located.

They always have done.

Bombing is not about hoping to hit Hamas - the right target.

Bombing is about destroying everything that is Gaza including the people.

Gaza is being ethnically cleansed.

Anniebach

Awarding Hamas, the elected government of the people. If the People choose for Hamas to continue running Gaza it will

They won’t of course, for obvious reasons, but the point of being a sovereign state with the right to self determination will mean that they can elect who they wish.

Just as the Israeli inexplicably have elected Netanyahu, Smotrich and Gvir.

Just as the Americans have elected Trump.

Of course it is very unlikely to happen as Israel is acting as a pariah state, and will if at all possible continue with genocide or at the very least ethnic cleansing.

We are entering another very dark period in the worlds history.

"The U.K. is to recognise the State of Palestine." 👏

Whitewavemark2

Of course it is very unlikely to happen as Israel is acting as a pariah state, and will if at all possible continue with genocide or at the very least ethnic cleansing.

We are entering another very dark period in the worlds history.

Time for the ICC to get their act together. To call on not just Netanyahu, but 2/3 members of the cabinet.