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Another stabbing by an immigrant. When do we wake up and smell the coffee?

(206 Posts)
Sago Tue 28-Oct-25 16:28:59

I am so sad to read of yet another stabbing resulting in the death of an innocent 49 year old man.

How can our government standby and allow this to happen again and again?

I feel sad, frightened and in total disbelief that this is happening on such a regular basis.

There will be a revolution and God help all the politicians.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 30-Oct-25 15:55:11

GrannyGravy13

Anecdotal, life experiences how else do you suggest we contribute to a thread?

If we only quoted published papers GN would be as boring as watching paint dry…

Indeed GG13

Galaxy Thu 30-Oct-25 15:55:15

I consider most of the threads on the situation in the middle east as provocative, and the Trump ones, I am afraid we all have to cope with different styles.

Caleo Thu 30-Oct-25 16:25:48

Allira

Caleo

Sago

Caleo

Maybe start a thread on the causes of xenophobia.

(Google)
The fear of foreigners is called xenophobia, defined as the fear, dislike, or hatred of people perceived as being foreign or strange. This fear is often rooted in the perception of a conflict between an "in-group" and an "out-group" and can manifest as suspicion, hostility, or prejudice against individuals based on their nationality, culture, ethnicity, religion, or other differences.

I do not have any fear of foreigners until they start behaving in a way that shows me they mean harm.

My father was a legal migrant to this country.
We have friends of all races, religions and political beliefs.

Our SIL was raised as a Muslim and our beautiful GC are mixed race.

I was accused by StoneofDestiny as being a Nazi, nothing could be further from the truth.

I simply believe many of the young men arriving illegally on our shores should not be here, they have no proof of who they are and many have come here to start a new life after committing crimes in their own country.

It is wrong and we are paying the price.

You clearly have personal experience. and it is very interesting.

However do you not see that anecdotal experience is insufficient and what is needed are properly harvested statistics which are interpreted as free from bias as possible.

what is needed are properly harvested statistics which are interpreted as free from bias as possible.
And the same should apply to whoever it was that accused another poster of being a Nazi without the proof of properly harvested statistics.

Part of my job was research and I did join Gransnet thinking it might be interesting to chat, to read the points of view of others.
I do remember one poster some time ago being constantly castigated for providing links shock

"And the same should apply to whoever it was that accused another poster of being a Nazi without the proof of properly harvested statistics."

Sounds like an expression of her feelings , not an opinion backed by evidence. I'd not worry too much about this as specious insults are rife on interactive media.

vintage1950 Thu 30-Oct-25 17:31:46

If we dismissed anecdotes out of hand we might never have had the smallpox vaccine. Edward Jenner, its inventor, acted on the 'folklore' that milkmaids who had caught cowpox were immune to smallpox. Anecdotes can stimulate scientific investigation.

Wyllow3 Thu 30-Oct-25 18:20:51

Its a question of the degree of relevance, neither dismiss them out of hand, nor over value them?

I think we all read them and think either, "well, there's a good point, it throws light on the matter for me, it 'speaks' to me

or

"this is just "too many steps removed for me, its not helpful".