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Will the Israeli government be investigated for war crimes?

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foxie48 Fri 31-Oct-25 07:48:31

"A classified report by a U.S. government watchdog has found that Israeli military units committed “many hundreds” of potential violations of U.S. human rights law in the Gaza Strip that would take the State Department “multiple years” to review, according to two U.S. officials who relayed the details to The Washington Post.

The findings by the State Department’s Office of Inspector General mark the first time a U.S. government report has acknowledged the scale of Israeli actions in Gaza that fall under the purview of Leahy Laws, the landmark legislation that bars U.S. security assistance to foreign military units credibly accused of gross human rights abuses.

U.S. officials, who discussed details of the report on the condition of anonymity because the contents were classified, said the watchdog findings raised doubts about the prospects for accountability for Israel’s actions given the large backlog of incidents and the nature of the review process, which is deferential to the Israel Defense Forces."

Washington Post 31.10.25

The above was taken from today's Washington Post. tbh I don't think Netanyahu or anyone else will be properly investigated, what do you think?

CariadAgain Wed 05-Nov-25 09:26:58

Off to google the origin of the phrase "The truth shall set you free". Well I always knew it was going to prove an "interesting" period to live in when the Internet was invented and became widespread.........

Maremia Wed 05-Nov-25 13:34:23

Thanks for the link Cariad. Will catch it later.

Oreo Wed 05-Nov-25 13:57:49

On the question of Cyprus, it isn’t a strange choice for Israeli Jews to want to live there, Israel and Cyprus have many links.
The weather is good and similar to Israel and many go on holiday there as it’s near.It’s a much safer choice than living in Israel.Many people retire there of all religions and none.

AGAA4 Wed 05-Nov-25 14:14:29

The problem for Cyprus is the number of Israelis buying land there and pricing out Cypriot people The establishment of gated communities is not welcome as only Israelis allowed.
The opposition party in Cyprus wants a limit on non EU people settling there.

Anniebach Wed 05-Nov-25 14:18:36

“The Truth Shall Set You Free”

New Testament Gospel of Saint John.

Oreo Wed 05-Nov-25 14:19:44

Tbf all nationalities help price out the locals.

AGAA4 Wed 05-Nov-25 14:32:45

Oreo

Tbf all nationalities help price out the locals.

True but Israeli numbers have tripled recently due to various factors. Life in Cyprus must be much more pleasant than their homeland lately.

CariadAgain Wed 05-Nov-25 15:11:53

I hadnt got as far as clicking they are doing gated communities and deliberately stopping the Cypriots themselves from buying there!!!!!! Phwoar.....cheek!

If I were a Cypriot living in my own country I'd be scared so many of them are coming over and terrified that they were starting to shut off bits of my own country from me having access to it and watching what they're doing in Palestine even more nervously.

Oreo Wed 05-Nov-25 15:17:02

That’s just silly.
They aren’t deliberately stopping anyone from buying houses in Cyprus.
Gated communities are common in many countries.
Locals understandably worry about rising prices due to any outsiders coming in, it happens in Wales and many other places.

CariadAgain Wed 05-Nov-25 15:23:18

I'd read it as the locals are not being allowed to buy in their own gated communities - ie because they arent deemed to be their own (despite being in their own country).

Wyllow3 Wed 05-Nov-25 16:07:59

West Bank.

A boy of 18 steps outside his front door to go to a shop to get a few things.

Guardian

"The IDF soldiers were firing indiscriminately when they raided New Askar refugee camp in Nablus” says resident”

Sheffield Nablus Twinning Association is deeply saddened to learn of yet another tragic death of a Palestinian boy, 18 year old Mohammad Abu Hneen, by Israeli soldiers on Thursday 23rd October.

He died from a single bullet wound to the chest after he simply stepped out to buy a few necessities for his family from a nearby shop.

He succumbed to his injury early Friday morning, October 24, 2025.

Israeli occupation forces had prevented ambulances from reaching him.

His brother and several other youths from New Askar Camp had to carry Mohammad on their shoulders under a hail of bullets, desperately trying to save his life.

This is the stark reality of life for Nablus residents in the West Bank of Palestine living under Israeli military occupation

Settler attacks have also increased as fanatical Zionists drive Palestinian farmers off the land they have farmed for centuries, often with the full support of Israeli soldiers and certain leading politicians

October 2025, the time of the vital olive harvest was the most violent month since the UN began tracking settler violence in 2013.

Israel occupies the West Bank and Gaza illegally under international law and has been instructed by the International Court to immediately end its occupation.

Israel is ignoring this with apparent impunity and has even tried to pass legislation recently to formally annex the West bank and make it part of Israel.

This is a not just a criminal regime, *this is ethnic cleansing

CariadAgain Wed 05-Nov-25 16:12:14

Presuming all these extra attacks during olive season are very deliberate. Guess they don't want the Palestinians reasserting their ownership of their own property (ie those olive trees). It is bl**dy awful and they ought to think shame on themselves for treating the rightful owners of that land this way.

What was that phrase "A land without people for a people without land" they used to use/maybe still do. Right from the very start it's been necessary to say "They ain't telling it like it is....they're telling it like they'd like it to be".

Oreo Wed 05-Nov-25 16:24:04

Wyllow3
According to Palestinians around him ( this story) of course they’re going to say something similar aren’t they? Stepped out to pop to the shops.Who knows what he was really doing, but hey! Guessing you want his story to be true.The facts are that you or me or anyone other than his friends ( who just happened to be there with him at the time) don’t know what he was doing .

Maremia Wed 05-Nov-25 16:36:06

What do you think he was doing, Oreo? It was his home town.
No matter what he was or wasn't doing, the ambulance was delayed by the Israeli forces?
That is malign.

Maremia Wed 05-Nov-25 16:38:00

Meanwhile exclusive gated communities a foreign land?
Great for some. They say Cyprus is beautiful.

AGAA4 Wed 05-Nov-25 16:43:28

I think Palestinians just have to be there to be shot. The fact that they stopped the ambulance shows how evil they are.

CariadAgain Wed 05-Nov-25 16:46:49

a. Does it matter what he was doing in what is his country - but not theirs? It sounded a perfectly legit reason to go outside in one's own country to me. It's HIS own country at that...so it's nowt to do with the IDF.

b. The "they would say that wouldnt they" argument most certainly wouldnt apply to a lot - eg a photo I saw of a young boy who looked about 6 years old this morning and was just "hanging around" by the look of it - but two IDF soldiers were clearly telling him to move on.

It is the Palestinians own country - every part of it (be it West Bank, Gaza or the main section) - but it is theirs by rights and therefore they do have every right to go wherever they decide they will whenever they decide they will.

At a personal level - I'd take great exception to my neighbours trying to tell me what I could and couldnt do in my own garden and when - and I've had to make that fact crystal clear on more than one occasion. "It's my garden - I can do what I please and when I please. It's my garden = keep the ** out of it". They've had to learn that I mean business - though at least they can't physically harm me or the police would be the next people they'd see.

I'm still struggling to get my head round the Palestinians being told what they can do/when/where in their own darn country - ie Palestine. It's quite a thought to realise just how I'd have had to live on my own property if that property was Palestine instead of Britain..(ie at risk all the time - just from leading a normal life and refusing to be restricted).

It would be interesting to know what the results would be if a straw poll was done here on the question of "If you are British and in Britain and someone else of another nationality tried to restrict your life/put you at risk etc = what would you do?"

Wyllow3 Wed 05-Nov-25 16:57:56

It's like pressing a button. One mentions something appalling, and up pops the predictable.

Oreo, has it not occurred in your relies that the IDF and the Settlers

Should not even be there at all!

CariadAgain Wed 05-Nov-25 17:14:38

Wyllow - quite!

They can insist until they're blue in the face that it's theirs....a book promised it to them 3,000 years ago etc etc - but it is not theirs....however much they keep insisting.

Someone who knows something most definitely really IS theirs/has been from Year Dot etc is too confident/well aware that it really is theirs to feel the need to act bullyboy and keep insisting (against all evidence) that it really is theirs.

If someone is insisting that land is theirs (when they know it isnt) they do not get all agressive about it/willing to say or do anything to back that claim they're making.

CariadAgain Wed 05-Nov-25 17:18:00

That last sentence of mine got a bit jumbled - but you get my drift.

Whatever level people are trying to nick land at - be it a bit of neighbours garden or a whole darn country - if you witness a jutting jaw/pugnacious look in their eyes and a certain underlying hesitancy when they assert it's theirs really = they know they're lying. I've watched this down at a personal level - when adjacent neighbours stole a bit of my garden. I could hear the lies/see the agressive jutting jaw/witness the trespassing. It's the same tactics - whether the land is a small bit or a whole country = they are lying and they do know they are.

Smileless2012 Wed 05-Nov-25 19:25:20

Presumably had this 18 year old been carrying a weapon, a hand grenade or something that would have led this 'soldier' to believe that he was a threat to his the soldier's life, this would have been revealed.

Why was the ambulance delayed? Has any kind of an explanation been given by the Israeli authorities; have they said there'll be one of those investigations that never seem to materialise?

Oreo Wed 05-Nov-25 19:29:47

Maremia

Meanwhile exclusive gated communities a foreign land?
Great for some. They say Cyprus is beautiful.

Cyprus is lovely, I want to go back for a holiday sometime.There are many retired people living there including Brits and Israelis.Why not?

Oreo Wed 05-Nov-25 19:35:09

Wyllow3

It's like pressing a button. One mentions something appalling, and up pops the predictable.

Oreo, has it not occurred in your relies that the IDF and the Settlers

*Should not even be there at all!*

I could actually say the same of your replies or anyone else but am too polite.
We don’t know what he was doing or his friends, they were a group or they wouldn’t have been there to carry him back.
That’s it isn’t it, none of us know.
I have always agreed that the settlers shouldn’t be there but the IDF are there a lot as the West Bank is full of dissident groups that the ruling authority can’t deal with on their own.If you didn’t realise this then you can read up on it.

CariadAgain Thu 06-Nov-25 08:50:09

Looks like they're after Thailand as well - bit by tiny bit...using locals as "front people" to buy this bit, buy that bit and so on .....and the Thais are trying to find ways to stop them...

Maremia Thu 06-Nov-25 08:51:45

No excuse ever for delaying that ambulance.