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Trump’s visa plans

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Nandalot Wed 10-Dec-25 17:21:18

Just when you think Trump couldn’t get any crazier, he has launched his new visa plans for most countries including the UK.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/10/tourists-social-media-trump
Although, it would obviously be good to screen for potential terrorists, I think the measures will put off a good number from visiting the US. The new visa will require 5 years of social media history, addresses and emails for five years and possibly the same for family members.
Visits to National Parks now cost £100 dollars tax including entrance fees. To cap it all, he is to abolish free entry on Martin Luther King Day although it will be free to enter on his birthday!

Casdon Sun 14-Dec-25 13:09:28

If that happened, all those in the UK who object to an ID system being introduced in the UK would not visit USA again, so it would have an adverse financial impact on the USA. The issue with any draconian system like that is that it has unintended consequences.

foxie48 Sun 14-Dec-25 13:11:51

I'm not aware of any country that requires visitors to give a five year social media history as well as information about family members. I certainly would not give another country access to the information that the US might be requesting and I think many others would feel the same.

Casdon Sun 14-Dec-25 13:13:35

It’s a huge disincentive. I’m not at all convinced that he will carry it through.

David49 Mon 15-Dec-25 17:02:34

David49

It seems the US is tightening its entry requirement, nothing unusual many countries do, its difficult for many to get a UK visa, India has quite detailed questions, no problem for us but some others it would not be straightforward.

I have a current ESTA for the US and plan to attend a wedding in the US but I must check if it is still valid, maybe I will just renew in advance and be sure.

They already have my fingerprints, no doubt it’s registered with my ESTA, I expect they can follow my phone too, doesn’t bother me

David49 Mon 15-Dec-25 17:10:03

foxie48

I'm not aware of any country that requires visitors to give a five year social media history as well as information about family members. I certainly would not give another country access to the information that the US might be requesting and I think many others would feel the same.

That might be a problem for me because I don’t have an online profile.
Unless Gransnet counts, in which case associating with Trump haters might be a problem

Casdon Mon 15-Dec-25 17:17:58

Or unless the authorities are suspicious because you don’t have an online profile, and think you have an alias, and are hiding something. Who knows how their minds work.

mrsmeldrew Mon 15-Dec-25 17:30:06

People comment he might not be long in post due to health issues but remember Robert Mugabe? He died aged 95. Trump is no doubt receiving the very best health care money can buy. He us probably receiving stem cell implants, immunotherapy and blood transfusions. I imagine Putin has given him advice on this very topic!

imaround Mon 15-Dec-25 17:42:28

I am home. I am seeing some rumors here and there about European tourists for the World Cup, but nothing from a reliable source.

I have to say. I wouldn't come here right now if I were any of you either. In fact, I would rather come you!

I'll be caught up soon.

foxie48 Mon 15-Dec-25 18:10:06

I think the cost of tickets will also be a huge disincentive. I bought tickets for the Olympics in Paris and for a fraction of the price sat in good seats and enjoyed a whole day of world class sport.

Grandmabatty Mon 15-Dec-25 18:11:13

He allegedly put an absolutely horrible message on his social media site about Rob Reiner. I've read what was there and couldn't believe how vindictive and nasty it was.

imaround Mon 15-Dec-25 18:25:11

Yes he did put up that message. And a whole bunch of MAGA on social M edia ate saying horrible things about Rob because he was a liberal.

Ladyleftfieldlover Mon 15-Dec-25 18:33:18

Obama’s message about Reiner’s death was properly gracious, as you would expect. The ‘normal’ world keep expecting trump to reach the absolute pits and then he would really have to go. But, hasn’t he reached the absolute pits several times - being cruel to bereaved parents, imitating a disabled journalist, sexually assaulting women, January 6 … but he’s still there. Why? His mainly handpicked Supreme Court are behind him and I reckon Putin has something on him.

foxie48 Mon 15-Dec-25 19:26:32

“A very sad thing happened last night in Hollywood. Rob Reiner, a tortured and struggling, but once very talented movie director and comedy star, has passed away, together with his wife, Michele, reportedly due to the anger he caused others through his massive, unyielding, and incurable affliction with a mind crippling disease known as TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME, sometimes referred to as TDS,” Trump's message of sympathy! My goodness, the man is completely off his rocker!

Casdon Mon 15-Dec-25 19:29:01

I just don’t get it, when somebody has been murdered in their own home, whoever they are, expressing sympathy is the least anybody should do. If you can’t even bring yourself to do that, say nothing. Speaking ill of the dead is something only vindictive people do.

Smileless2012 Mon 15-Dec-25 19:32:32

OMG!!! shock

imaround Mon 15-Dec-25 20:30:40

He is making it political when in reality it was Reiner's son who has been arrested. There was apparently a history of mental health issues, drug abuse and estrangement.

I hope he is made to walk alone through eternity, with no one to worship him. His worst nightmare I would imagine. Hell is even too good for him.

IOMGran Tue 16-Dec-25 08:55:30

Re the Reiner's murders, I have started it's own thread. It is I feel a pivotal point in the unravelling of Trump. Plus he has now started referring to himself in the 3rd person, never a good sign.

Aely Tue 16-Dec-25 21:24:39

He's been referring to himself in the third person for a long time. He just likes to see his name in print. Moron. (Good job I have no wish to go to America! grin )

IOMGran Wed 17-Dec-25 08:45:57

Aely

He's been referring to himself in the third person for a long time. He just likes to see his name in print. Moron. (Good job I have no wish to go to America! grin )

Me neither, I don't think I will ever visit again now. Plenty of other good places to go though.

sodapop Wed 17-Dec-25 15:23:53

Many of us have family in America so still want to visit. Hopefully these ludicrous restrictions will not come about.

IOMGran Wed 17-Dec-25 15:57:28

Could they not travel to you instead? Or meet in Canada or Mexico?

sodapop Wed 17-Dec-25 21:00:15

Yes we will have to work round it if the worst comes to the worstIOMGran let's hope common sense prevails.

David49 Thu 18-Dec-25 07:19:16

Lots of hysteria on this thread

We are visiting the US for a wedding in May so I thought I would look at the changes proposed

Tourists no change but they will collect biometrics as we do in the UK, ESTAs are still current, applications proceed as normal

Migrant workers face big changes this is where the 5 yr social media screening comes in, they are going to look at past activity closely.
The UK has strict rules for migrant workers it’s very difficult to come to the UK from most countries for work unless it’s a sponsored application. Tourist visas are also strictly controlled too.

Trump has made these changes because companies were bringing in large numbers of migrant workers when local workers were available. Recently a Korean company brought in hundreds migrant workers onto a construction site that had no special skills, they were sent home. In future if a migrant worker has special skills the company will have to pay a large bond to do that, protecting local workers jobs.

foxie48 Thu 18-Dec-25 07:41:28

I haven't seen any hysteria, these are proposals that Trump has put forward for implementation. Clearly you assumed they were current, they are not.

David49 Thu 18-Dec-25 08:28:00

foxie48

I haven't seen any hysteria, these are proposals that Trump has put forward for implementation. Clearly you assumed they were current, they are not.

If you are in India they are, visas have been cancelled, 30 countries in total. It doesnt look a big deal for tourists and I don’t expect many Gransnetters are planning to work in the US.