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Trump’s visa plans

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Nandalot Wed 10-Dec-25 17:21:18

Just when you think Trump couldn’t get any crazier, he has launched his new visa plans for most countries including the UK.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/10/tourists-social-media-trump
Although, it would obviously be good to screen for potential terrorists, I think the measures will put off a good number from visiting the US. The new visa will require 5 years of social media history, addresses and emails for five years and possibly the same for family members.
Visits to National Parks now cost £100 dollars tax including entrance fees. To cap it all, he is to abolish free entry on Martin Luther King Day although it will be free to enter on his birthday!

Whitewavemark2 Thu 11-Dec-25 17:40:55

Ladyleftfieldlover

I would recommend the Rest is Politics podcast with Alistair Campbell and Rory Stewart. They know their stuff and at the moment are very concerned about trump.

Yes!

Etoile2701 Fri 12-Dec-25 08:59:28

Allsorts

I hope no one visits.

I certainly won't be visiting and wouldn't go there if you paid me.

SueDonim Fri 12-Dec-25 10:50:56

My DS, dil and two GC’s live in the US, so it’s not a simple choice for us.

We’ve been visiting the States for almost twenty five years, since ds moved there, and the people we’ve met over the years have been lovely. They’re welcoming and generous, interested in us as people and very kind-hearted. The America I see in the news is not the America I know.

Magenta8 Fri 12-Dec-25 11:06:43

SueDonim You make a very good point.

I have never visited the USA but the number of intelligent, humane, American commentators on Youtube make it very clear that Trump does not represent all the people in the USA by any means.

MAGA support appears to be dwindling. Only a minority of people still don't seem to realise the damage Trump is doing to the USA and they delude themselves that Trump is respected by most countries outside the USA.

nanna8 Fri 12-Dec-25 11:16:10

We’re supposed to be going next year but having second thoughts. Only to one of their territories in the Pacific so maybe ok. I wouldn’t go to the mainland now. Off the list along with Russia, China , Iran and Afghanistan. What a shame it is.

Etoile2701 Fri 12-Dec-25 11:16:55

Labradora

I have never visited the USA , unlike my younger sister and her family for whom the US is their " go to " country.
Although I realise there is much to see and admire there, I have always been afraid to go because it seems to me that they are all "armed to the teeth" and I think it would be quite frightening.
If any other reason were needed for me not to go there , these visa plans are that reason. Ironically I have such an insignificant digital footprint that I could probably produce the paperwork really quickly.
Yup I have lived and think I will die never having visited the other side of the Pond.

I went to New York for a long weekend in 2001 but have not been to the US since, and certainly won't go there now. Having said that, I did enjoy New York.

Aveline Fri 12-Dec-25 11:26:04

We're not going to America until Trump has gone.

AmberGran Fri 12-Dec-25 13:16:45

We’ve been visiting the States for almost twenty five years, since ds moved there, and the people we’ve met over the years have been lovely. They’re welcoming and generous, interested in us as people and very kind-hearted. The America I see in the news is not the America I know.

SueDonim Absolutely agree. Sadly the UK people see in the news is not the UK most of us know either.

henetha Fri 12-Dec-25 13:33:51

It's very sad what is happening to America. Having visited there twice I found most people to be kind, friendly and welcoming. And I have an American pen-pal to whom I've been writing for about twenty years. She and her family and friends are appalled at what is happening to their country.
I certainly won't be visiting again. Not under the present administration anyway.
I am sorry for those of you with family over there, it must be heart-breaking.

foxie48 Fri 12-Dec-25 13:45:03

We have had some lovely holidays in the US but when Trump got in in 2016 we decided we wouldn't go there again. All the Americans that I have met in various countries since 2016 have been friendly, interesting people and not one has admitted to voting for Trump. We need to remember that less than 50% of those who actually voted, voted for Trump. There's plenty of decent, educated and sensible people who must feel frustrated and angry about what Trump is doing to their country.

imaround Fri 12-Dec-25 15:21:17

Please remember that out of over 330 million people in the US, only 77 million voted for him.

He does not represent all of us. We do not support him. Americans are lovely, welcoming people. So please don't write us all off as something we are not.

If I were on here making generalizations about British citizens, you would all be telling me that it isn't fair to lump you all together. confused

Aely Fri 12-Dec-25 15:29:09

Grandmabatty

This will devastate tourism to USA, particularly the World Cup and the Olympics, I would think. I wonder how manageable it would be?

Can anybody afford to go for the World Cup? Have you seen the Ticket prices?

If he saw the emails I have exchanged with a US Citizen friend in S Carolina, we would both be deported - even though we decided to refer to him only as OMB (Orange Man Baby) after several of her critical emails failed to get through.

What a hyper-sensitive moron that creature is. (in my opinion).

Good job I have NO intention of visiting the USA.

imaround Fri 12-Dec-25 15:41:11

Also, the majority of us are unarmed every day. We may have them at home for protection or hunting, but we don't strap on and walk out the door. Unless you are in Wyoming or Texas. And frankly neither of those states are worth saving IMO. Too far gone.

Grandmabatty Fri 12-Dec-25 18:50:51

Aely I expect the corporate bodies will snap up most of the tickets and use them to 'entertain' clients. Ordinary fans will be short on the ground. But ordinary fans are the ones who spend money on tourist attractions and in restaurants and they won't be there. Trump and his like won't care about that. They'll have made their money. Imaround I feel sorry for all you decent folk who must feel helpless at what is happening around you.

imaround Fri 12-Dec-25 19:06:08

We are doing something though. We are protesting, boycotting and voting. The tide is changing. Democrats are sweeping elections. Even in reliably red areas.

He will die someday, but the damage will take a generation to repair.

I am hopeful that now that so many people can no longer afford healthcare. We will end up with Universal Health Care.

Esmay Fri 12-Dec-25 19:29:19

I've spent holidays in the States and in Canada .
I enjoyed both and thought them very different experiences .
I found the US extremely diverse .
I'd like to visit my old friend in Florida .
Surely this new policy isn't going to be implemented.

Allsorts Fri 12-Dec-25 19:43:12

I feel very sorry for the majority of American people who have T as their president, he is an acute embarrassment, the way he spoke to Zelensky showed everyone what he is. Things will alter, hopefully you will get a decent person in office before too long, he is ever desperate and its scary what he might do in league with P, though before he leaves office.

IOMGran Sat 13-Dec-25 15:48:55

imaround

Also, the majority of us are unarmed every day. We may have them at home for protection or hunting, but we don't strap on and walk out the door. Unless you are in Wyoming or Texas. And frankly neither of those states are worth saving IMO. Too far gone.

Sending deepest sympathy to you and Americans like you. My fear is that the UK will elect Reform and we'll follow suit. Worrying times.

imaround Sat 13-Dec-25 19:03:12

I worry about that too IOM.

Allsorts Sun 14-Dec-25 07:26:35

I feel sorry for those with families in America they need to visit. If Trump were investigated the same he would never be let in. How much longer before there is an election there or has he changed the law yet to say he is there for life.

Maremia Sun 14-Dec-25 07:37:04

Following campaigners in the States, who are already making slow but sure resistance and progress.
Evidence is in the recent voting successes.
It will take time, but time is no longer on his side.
My daughter is very keen to visit the New York Christmas scene, but not this year.
Feel for the GNs with family there.
And for all of my lovely friends who live there.

Calendargirl Sun 14-Dec-25 07:46:12

We have holidayed in America a few times.

We found so many people were friendly, genuinely interested in where we came from, liked our ‘British’ accents…..

Would love to go again to some of the places we still haven’t been to, but the airport checks and similar are off putting.

Casdon Sun 14-Dec-25 08:05:34

I do wonder if it will actually happen, or if it’s just Trump dropping a pebble in the pond again. The USA must surely be one of the world’s top destinations for international business travel, and surely that would be severely curtailed if the visa plan applied.

David49 Sun 14-Dec-25 08:12:45

It seems the US is tightening its entry requirement, nothing unusual many countries do, its difficult for many to get a UK visa, India has quite detailed questions, no problem for us but some others it would not be straightforward.

I have a current ESTA for the US and plan to attend a wedding in the US but I must check if it is still valid, maybe I will just renew in advance and be sure.

imaround Sun 14-Dec-25 12:57:53

I saw that the US was planning on collecting DNA as part of this program. I hope that isn't true.