Trump’s visa plans

David do you live in USA? Are you au fait with everything that's going on? Imaround actually lives there, so will be more clued up, I would think.
Imaround I think you have been very understanding of someone who claims things are FACTS without providing evidence. Who writes ' many are caught arranging work' without giving sources or details. However this seems to be David's modus operandi.

I am regular visitor to the US from the UK so I am interested just what, if any new regulations might affect me. Having checked what information there is available it seems that social media and other checks will affect migrants and workers going to the US, not tourists.

Thousands travel from UK to US every day, yesterday (Sunday) there were 100 flights to the US from Heathrow alone, so there does not seem to be any crisis entering the US for tourists.

Trump is obviously a very controversial character, individuals may decide they don’t want to travel to US because they don’t like him, that’s their choice. From many countries it’s very difficult to travel to the US, those same countries it’s also very difficult to travel to the UK which is why we have so many illegals crossing the channel.

Why do Americans put up with Trump. I would like to know. He is at best a major embarrassment, are they not ashamed of him? Money seems to buy you a Presidency in USA.

Not all Americans put up with Trump. Less than 30% of eligible voters put Trump in office.

Those who do not put up with Trump are filing lawsuits, protesting, boycotting, and voting against him. Which is working, albeit slower than any of us would like, it is faster than we expected.

What more would you suggest we do?

They are not "illegals" David.

No human being is "an illegal".

They are non visa immigrants, and the term "irregular migrant" fits appropriately and well.

Words matter

I'd prefer to trust the information from people who actually live in the country, than someone who visits regularly. Regularly could mean once a week, month or year or somewhere in between

Wyllow3

They are not "illegals" David.

No human being is "an illegal".

They are non visa immigrants, and the term "irregular migrant" fits appropriately and well.

^Words matter^

I'm confused. Given that every country requires visitors to obtain appropriate visas/passports/etc before visiting the country (whether for tourism or immigration) doesn't that make someone who doesn't have those documents but attempts to enter the country an illegal immigrant? Though not an illegal human being, I'll agree.

That's a bit like calling someone who forcibly breaks into your house an unwanted visitor.

Anyone who arrives without a visa IS illegal, most claim assylum, but when the arrived they were illegal.

If I arrived in any country without a visa I would be arrested and sent straight back home. Most are young male economic migrants, that have deliberately destroyed their passports so the intent to deceive was deliberate. If they were genuine why destroy documents?.

Grandmabatty

I'd prefer to trust the information from people who actually live in the country, than someone who visits regularly. Regularly could mean once a week, month or year or somewhere in between

Well around 25,000 flew out of Heathrow yesterday that would disagree with you, of course many of US residents disagree with Trump, Democrats plus others, many others agree with him controlling migration.

Grandmabatty, the Visas that this thread is about has nothing to do with undocumented immigrants coming across the border. This entire topic is about companies that use the H1B Visas, which is a specific, legal Visa used to bring high skilled workers into the US. It targets mainly the tech workers that US based companies bring over for cheaper than US based tech workers.

Comparing the legal Visas that Trump is targeting to undocumented workers is apples to oranges.

You can't help yourself, can you David? 😂
Nothing you subsequently wrote says anything about a lived experience versus a visit.
Of course many in USA are against Trump. Imaround gave you the actual number who voted for him. And you're back to 'many agree with him' without citing sources.

AmberGran

Wyllow3

They are not "illegals" David.

No human being is "an illegal".

They are non visa immigrants, and the term "irregular migrant" fits appropriately and well.

^Words matter^

I'm confused. Given that every country requires visitors to obtain appropriate visas/passports/etc before visiting the country (whether for tourism or immigration) doesn't that make someone who doesn't have those documents but attempts to enter the country an illegal immigrant? Though not an illegal human being, I'll agree.

That's a bit like calling someone who forcibly breaks into your house an unwanted visitor.

Because a good proportion entering are genuine asylum seekers or refugees.

words Do matter

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Here is a recent poll, December 11th that shows how many people agree with Trump about immigration. Numbers are slipping.

apnorc.org/projects/trumps-approval-rating-slips-on-the-economy-and-immigration/

Overall, Trump's approval rating is his lowest ever, 36%.

imaround

Overall, Trump's approval rating is his lowest ever, 36%.

Of course he’ll say it’s fake news and everyone loves him.

A lot of people are starting to see through the fake news baloney he spouts. Unfortunately, his favorite Fox shows similar numbers. That made him mad recently.

He won two elections, I know this is very hard for people, but under the system currently operating in America, that us what happened.

Galaxy

He won two elections, I know this is very hard for people, but under the system currently operating in America, that us what happened.

Yes.

Currently POTUS has a higher approval rating than Keir Starmer 🤷‍♀️

I don't like to comment on politics in the UK, because I don't live there and know nothing about it, but that shocks me Galaxy! Mostly because I can't think of anyone less popular than Trump!

I am aware enough that the migrant issues you deal with in the UK have an overall different impact on your country than what we have here in the US due to our sheer size and available resources we have.

Oops, that was to Granny gravy. Not Galaxy! I misread the quote.

British PMs rarely have approval ratings above 40%, which is unsurprising given they aren’t directly elected by the public, whereas US presidents are. I think their system has its pros and cons, because it is a personal popularity contest, closely linked to financing an election campaign, and wealth and popularity is not related to competence.

That makes sense Casdon. Thank you for explaining that.

Grandmabatty

You can't help yourself, can you David? 😂
Nothing you subsequently wrote says anything about a lived experience versus a visit.
Of course many in USA are against Trump. Imaround gave you the actual number who voted for him. And you're back to 'many agree with him' without citing sources.

You can’t help yourself can you Grandmabatty, it’s pretty clear many agree with Trump controlling migration or they wouldn’t still be supporting him in congress, enabling him to carry on. He does it because he can, migration, tariffs, diversity, Ukraine, Venezuela, Gaza if you want, he will continue until the Republican Party break ranks and he gets impeached.

You just don’t realize what is happening, are you really so deluded that he is doing it with a lot of support, he has changed more in a year than the previous 20 years. There hasn’t been a collapse in the stock market, he hasn’t declared war on anyone, despite all the predictions. China is playing along because they know he can’t intimidate them, Putin is being awkward but if the EU is willing to support what he sees as a lost cause, good luck to them.

They - whoever they are, are supporting (or advising) Trump all the way

The "they" that David is referring to is The Heritage Foundation. And "they" mean nothing when midterms come. The voters are what matter, and they are increasingly abandoning the GOP. This is based on actual numbers in polls and recent election results in reliably Red areas that overwhelmingly went Blue.

There has also been a recent uprising of the GOP in the house, against Trump policies, which can be found online with a simple Google search in case someone wants actual facts.

The voters are so important that the GOP is doing everything they can to limit their votes including gerrymandering, removing millions of eligible voters from voter rolls, asking states and the supreme Court to do unconstitutional things, and more.

They are so sure that they can't win in 2026 that Mike Johnson recently appealed to his base that Trump will be impeached of Dems are allowed to win. He is 100% correct.

Also, it will be the economy, not immigration, that looses him Congress.

Can't wait until Jan 1 when the health care subsidies expire and people's premiums go up so much they have to drop their health insurance. Especially since there was bipartisan support to force a vote on the subsidies and Johnson put the House in recess instead of allowing the vote.