Trump’s visa plans

Thank you imaround.

Smileless2012

Good grief!!! Thank goodness we don't own a property in Florida any more.

Same, we sold ours 12 years ago.

How anyone in America can think he is any use must be as deranged as he. Notice Elon not on side anymore.

If Trump looses his majority it will grid lock government which will be chaotic and may cause an economic crisis. In the likelihood of impeachment it will take a year plus to convict him and a 2/3 majority to remove him, then Vance replaces him a President - not an inticing prospect.

I have an expectation that Trump will not be as easy to remove as Nixon, he will fight fight fight. I expect him to press on with his agenda in the meantime.

If Trump looses his majority it will grid lock government which will be chaotic and may cause an economic crisis

Goodness, David. Do you think that the US government is hunky dory and running smoothly now?

MaizieD

^If Trump looses his majority it will grid lock government which will be chaotic and may cause an economic crisis^

Goodness, David. Do you think that the US government is hunky dory and running smoothly now?

Exactly. The government was shut down for over a month and we are on the brink of a recession, if that isn't gridlock and chaos...

Elon has already begun donating money to the GOP for 2026 Allsorts. He may talk the talk, but he isn't walking the walk

MaizieD

^If Trump looses his majority it will grid lock government which will be chaotic and may cause an economic crisis^

Goodness, David. Do you think that the US government is hunky dory and running smoothly now?

My thinking is that it will take a long time to undo the changes that Trump has made, I’m not expecting any quick fixes - we will see.

A year is a very long time on politics, I m not a Trump supporter and I expect him to loose his majority and get impeached.

However I also expected Harris to win the last election, politics in the US are too polarized, too extreme in both directions. If the Democrats had a more moderate candidate they would have won, I agree the future battle will be on the economy, predictions of disaster have not happened, the outcome of the Epstein circus will also have its effect.

Welcome imaround for our dose of reality checks.

The claims in Trumps Christmas address - how much people are better off - when next year tax cuts are big on the horizon - that will mean slashing services even more - aghast. he is dismantling social and Medical care bit by bit, and it isnt going to be his rich friends who suffer.

We already made the decision not to visit the USA whilst Trump is in office - sad as have both family and friends there

That's a difficult one Cossy.

I am sad that so many around the world are cancelling trips here. I don't blame anyone one bit. I wouldn't either. This place has lost the plot.

Cossy

We already made the decision not to visit the USA whilst Trump is in office - sad as have both family and friends there

Instead they can go to Egypt, Thailand, China, Dubai even Turkey all of whom are military dictatorships with very questionable human rights records.

David49

Cossy

We already made the decision not to visit the USA whilst Trump is in office - sad as have both family and friends there

Instead they can go to Egypt, Thailand, China, Dubai even Turkey all of whom are military dictatorships with very questionable human rights records.

Why would Cossy and family go to any of those places instead? She has not said she has friends and family in any of those countries.

I wouldn't even be going anyway to any of those places, nor to the US. I have no friends or family in any of them to visit, and their political atmospheres are not attractive. There are many other destinations, including ones in my own country that I have never seen.

Elegran

I wouldn't even be going anyway to any of those places, nor to the US. I have no friends or family in any of them to visit, and their political atmospheres are not attractive. There are many other destinations, including ones in my own country that I have never seen.

You or I might not but thousands do, earlier in the thread there was a group who cancelled a US trip and went to Egypt instead, bonkers but their choice.

They did it as a statement on their opinion of the situation in the US. Their choice. If there were as much publicity and global influence in connection with the equivalent regimes in the other places you list, they might have been triggered to treat them the same.

The Trump regime has worked so hard at alienating all non-US countries (with certain exceptions which have a vested interest in being best pals with them) that it is not surprising that tourists are not rushing to their shores. Perhaps "Egypt, Thailand, China, Dubai even Turkey" see the financial advantages of marketing their country to travellers more clearly than the current inwardly focussing US administration.

I agree with Elegran.

I don’t like the way Trump is behaving either, there are far more abuses in many other countries, that’s OK is it.

No, of curse not and no-one is saying thst.

We do not have a "Special Relationship" with these countries, we are not particular allies and they are of a different culture and history to ours. We may have diplomatic relationships with them but the relationship is not the same.
Therein lies the difference.

Who exactly is saying that it is OK, David? I don't see any posts that claim that.

I see posts that criticise Trump's USA. They are not saying that other authoritarian dictatorships are any better. It isn't a contest, not a race to the bottom of the league.

If someone says that one gangster is a criminal do you interpret that as meaning that another is an altruistic benefactor who deserves a medal?

Elegran

Who exactly is saying that it is OK, David? I don't see any posts that claim that.

I see posts that criticise Trump's USA. They are not saying that other authoritarian dictatorships are any better. It isn't a contest, not a race to the bottom of the league.

If someone says that one gangster is a criminal do you interpret that as meaning that another is an altruistic benefactor who deserves a medal?

There is a witch hunt on Trump and accusations of dictatorship yet we happily holiday and trade with many real dictatorships where individual rights barely exist. Trump wants to control migration, control drug trafficking, improve the economy, criminals don’t like that yet so many side with the criminals

Well, David, I don't regard Mr Trump as being subjected to any " witch hunt" and am happy to stand by my decision not to visit the USA whilst he is President.
The corollary, that I would choose to visit the other countries which you list, is shaky, to say the least.
Mr Trump's venom is not confined to drug traffickers. He has blown up boats from Venezuela with absolutely no evidence that there were drugs on board. He refers to people who do not vote for him as " scum"..and he has spoken on several occasions of his plans for Greenland, which has no
connection either with migration, or drug trafficking , or dealing with criminals.
I have never been convicted of any offence, and I don't like these activities.
It seems that my dislike of these practices, in your eyes, means that " I side with the criminals". Could you justify that claim, please?

This year, I have several European trips planned, to visit family and friends.
I am thoughtful of where my money is spent