Paul Doyle sentenced to 21+ years

"Well done, "Beak ".
My favourite saying when a member of the Judiciary throws the book ay someone who deserves it.

I guess this is a prime example of somebody who lost it. There seems no rational explanation at all for his actions.

Reading the victims' statements is just horrifying. The events of that day will leave a lasting toll on so many people, but hopefully the sentence will help some to find a measure of closure at least. It's a good thing that he did change his plea to guilty - even if that was at the last minute.

I read in one of the newspapers today, after the verdict, that he had quite a few previous convictions , within the Armed Forces and as a civilian, for violent offences. Including biting someone’s ear off in a fight. A bad-tempered man, perhaps?

A sheer miracle that nobody died but a horror that will live with those who were there for ever.

Think it should have been life in Broadmoor as he's violent and unpredictable. Also would deny access to roids.

joannapiano

I read in one of the newspapers today, after the verdict, that he had quite a few previous convictions , within the Armed Forces and as a civilian, for violent offences. Including biting someone’s ear off in a fight. A bad-tempered man, perhaps?

His previous offences were over 30 years ago.

I hope that 21 years and six months means at least that as he will be 75 by the time he comes out. His driving licence should be revoked and never returned if he is ever released.
He used the car as a weapon

IOMGran

Think it should have been life in Broadmoor as he's violent and unpredictable. Also would deny access to roids.

Broadmoor is a psychiatric hospital, not a prison. No evidence was put forward to suggest that there was any kind of psychiatric issue here.

It’s frightening that a car can be as dangerous as a gun when the wrong person is behind the wheel.

Nice to see this judge giving a proper sentence as he has been known for letting sex offenders off very lightly.

He has a long history of violent outbursts. At what point should this be treated as a mental health issue?

First of all can I say that I was absolutely horrified what this man did and I am not making excuses for him.

I was surprised to hear he had a violent past because early on his friends and neighbours were all saying what a nice family man he was. Today it said on the news that although he was in trouble when he was younger he had not been in any kind of trouble for decades. It was also reported that 20+ people who knew him well had given character references for him.

Is it possible that he has a brain tumour? I ask only because I was reading recently about a woman who became violent and very nasty to everyone she knew and it was discovered she had a brain tumour which was pressing on a certain part of her brain that affects behaviour.

He can apply for parole after 14 years.
And his driving licence is revoked for 3 years upon release.

Being violent and nasty to people isn't the same as deliberately driving into people knowing you could injure or kill them. He doesn't have a brain tumour.

keepingquiet

Being violent and nasty to people isn't the same as deliberately driving into people knowing you could injure or kill them. He doesn't have a brain tumour.

How do you know this? I hope the experts have considered this and he has had brain scans.

Primrose53

keepingquiet

Being violent and nasty to people isn't the same as deliberately driving into people knowing you could injure or kill them. He doesn't have a brain tumour.

How do you know this? I hope the experts have considered this and he has had brain scans.

I'm pretty sure that if there was even the slightest question of there being some kind of medical explanation for what he did, his defence team would have been all over it.

This man lost his temper, he was discharged from the Royal Marines and has criminal convictions for violent behaviour.

He has a terrible temper. I wonder about his private life.

I’m certain his defence team will have considered any mitigating circumstances. There were none.

That will be interesting to watch won't it Iam64. Sorry interesting is the wrong words.
I am stealing someone else's words here but violent and family man aren't necessarily contradictions sometimes.

Galaxy, you are so right, how many seemingly respectable, friendly, charming , dedicated family men are abusive.

Not long enough as he will never do the full term

it was awful for those people who were simply enjoying a family time out and now many have life changing injuries not to mention PTSD. people were trapped under his car yet he kept going. well done to the man who forced the car into park by jumping in the back of the car.
due to his behaviour, i shall say this which will not be popular, maybe his wife will be glad to see the back of him because who knows really how he treated her?

ViceVersa

Primrose53

keepingquiet

Being violent and nasty to people isn't the same as deliberately driving into people knowing you could injure or kill them. He doesn't have a brain tumour.

How do you know this? I hope the experts have considered this and he has had brain scans.

I'm pretty sure that if there was even the slightest question of there being some kind of medical explanation for what he did, his defence team would have been all over it.

According to the prosecution's summing up he had not been under the influence of drugs or alcohol and tests had shown he had not suffered a medical episode. The car was in a roadworthy condition with no signs of a malfunction rendering it impossible to control.

He lost his temper at the onset and his rage grew throughout the rampage.
labazs, a number of posters have suggested his behaviour within his family may have been less than ideal

According to the prosecution's summing up he had not been under the influence of drugs or alcohol and tests had shown he had not suffered a medical episode. The car was in a roadworthy condition with no signs of a malfunction rendering it impossible to control..
I have noticed before now that speaking about childhood trauma is never popular on GN. The BBC ran an interesting column headed The Two Sides of Liverpool Attacker, Paul Doyle, he certainly had a troubled teenage/young adult time but he had stayed out of trouble 32 years, went to university, got a good job in IT where he was described as a nice man who would do anything for anybody, he was described as a generous and helpful man by the neighbours and he loved hiking in the Lake District and running marathons.
I saw some comments that suggested that he had agreed to pick up his wife that day and was on the way to do that, that some of the football crowd had banged on the car and so on. 99 percent of people will not understand or offer any compassion for what followed but something happened that changed 30+ years of relatively tolerant living.
I wonder about his childhood, there can be emotional neglect as well as physical. I have spoken to Quaker friends who do prison visiting and they tell me just how many prisoners have suffered deprivation and abuse as childen.
I also wonder about the state of our roads today. People drive dangerously and aggressively, cars have become weapons, road rules are ignored, cyclists (another GN bugbear) are often dealt aggressive behaviour because they are 'in the way', road rage has become common but is rarely punished.
I live near a common where the roads have become race tracks and the cattle who live on it are knocked down, even killed by hit and run drivers. It can be a small step to run down a human when you are in a hurry and angry at the traffic and the potholes.
Not a popular point of view I'm sure but maybe we could just pull back from being judge and jury.